damn it, I need to start my day already. I woke up at 5 this morning
...+ vodka and make a party out of it!Kmarion wrote:
California votes until 11 p.m ET. Buy some Red Bull.CameronPoe wrote:
One of my housemates is big into politics of all kinds and he intends to stay up until 3 or 4 watching the results come in!!!!Kmarion wrote:
Polls close at different times in different states. You will start hearing the precincts coming in about 7 pm est.
Yes, we can.
Source:Drudge
HILLARY ELECTION DAY HEALTH SCARE
Tue Feb 05 2008 12:38:40 ET
Just as Mrs. Clinton touted the importance of good health and universal healthcare for America, a scary coughing fit forced the end of a live TV interview on Super Tuesday.
Clinton was addressing the nation's healthcare needs live on San Francisco's KTVU-TV.
The drama comes 48 hours after taping had to be delayed Sunday on ABC 'THIS WEEK', when a Clinton coughing fit alarmed producers. Concerned Host George Stephanopoulos told the senator to get some "tea and lemon".
"Every New Yorker has a sore throat after last night," Clinton explained to talk-show host David Letterman during her appearance Monday on 'LATE SHOW', trying to deflect any health concerns.
HILLARY ELECTION DAY HEALTH SCARE
Tue Feb 05 2008 12:38:40 ET
Just as Mrs. Clinton touted the importance of good health and universal healthcare for America, a scary coughing fit forced the end of a live TV interview on Super Tuesday.
Clinton was addressing the nation's healthcare needs live on San Francisco's KTVU-TV.
The drama comes 48 hours after taping had to be delayed Sunday on ABC 'THIS WEEK', when a Clinton coughing fit alarmed producers. Concerned Host George Stephanopoulos told the senator to get some "tea and lemon".
"Every New Yorker has a sore throat after last night," Clinton explained to talk-show host David Letterman during her appearance Monday on 'LATE SHOW', trying to deflect any health concerns.
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i blame weedKmarion wrote:
Source:Drudge
HILLARY ELECTION DAY HEALTH SCARE
Tue Feb 05 2008 12:38:40 ET
Just as Mrs. Clinton touted the importance of good health and universal healthcare for America, a scary coughing fit forced the end of a live TV interview on Super Tuesday.
Clinton was addressing the nation's healthcare needs live on San Francisco's KTVU-TV.
The drama comes 48 hours after taping had to be delayed Sunday on ABC 'THIS WEEK', when a Clinton coughing fit alarmed producers. Concerned Host George Stephanopoulos told the senator to get some "tea and lemon".
"Every New Yorker has a sore throat after last night," Clinton explained to talk-show host David Letterman during her appearance Monday on 'LATE SHOW', trying to deflect any health concerns.
I will personally hold responsible all Americans on this forum if Clinton wins. Especially ATG, and especially usmarine
Seriously though, what are the early results saying?
Seriously though, what are the early results saying?
that its too early to be asking that questionMek-Izzle wrote:
I will personally hold responsible all Americans on this forum if Clinton wins. Especially ATG, and especially usmarine
Seriously though, what are the early results saying?
Have you voted yet, chump?GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
that its too early to be asking that questionMek-Izzle wrote:
I will personally hold responsible all Americans on this forum if Clinton wins. Especially ATG, and especially usmarine
Seriously though, what are the early results saying?
I haven't.
if i was registered for the '04 eleection, am i still registered?
Why was the first thought when I read thatig wrote:
if i was registered for the '04 eleection, am i still registered?
"Convicted Felon"
lol. no felonies hereMek-Izzle wrote:
Why was the first thought when I read thatig wrote:
if i was registered for the '04 eleection, am i still registered?
"Convicted Felon"
Huckabee wins all 18 W.Va. delegatesMek-Izzle wrote:
I will personally hold responsible all Americans on this forum if Clinton wins. Especially ATG, and especially usmarine
Seriously though, what are the early results saying?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080205/ap_ … gn_rdp_106
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Hmm. Ok so you have this delagate system, and basically at the end of all these primary elections. Candidates have a number of delegates for themselves, and then they (the delegates) vote and that's a typical numbers vote and who wins, wins.
But
What's stopping a delegate, even though he's with one candidate. To just randomly vote for another during the delegate voting bit? Either because he was bribed or, simply for the lulz?
Unless I've got it sort of wrong.
But
What's stopping a delegate, even though he's with one candidate. To just randomly vote for another during the delegate voting bit? Either because he was bribed or, simply for the lulz?
Unless I've got it sort of wrong.
Last edited by Mek-Izzle (2008-02-05 11:41:45)
Registration expiration depends upon your state, but I think every state is at least 4 years so you are good.ig wrote:
if i was registered for the '04 eleection, am i still registered?
It has only happened a few times. If they do that they are usually fined and it's probably the end of them .Mek-Izzle wrote:
Hmm. Ok so you have this delagate system, and basically at the end of all these primary elections. Candidates have a number of delegates for themselves, and then they (the delegates) vote and that's a typical numbers vote and who wins, wins.
But
What's stopping a delegate, even though he's with one candidate. To just randomly vote for another during the delegate voting bit? Either because he was bribed or, simply for the lulz?
Unless I've got it sort of wrong.
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Well, in California, we have returned to PAPER ballots so it'll be a while before the biggest and best state voices their delegate selections...I give them 3 days to finish their tallies.
DIEBOLD FTL.
Could be wrong, but I don't think it's illegal or unethical..it's the discretion of the party chair I thought. Correct me if I'm wrong.
DIEBOLD FTL.
If I'm not mistaken, it's perfectly "legal" and even ethical to choose anyone in your party to be the candidate..the delegate winner does not have to be the one..it just shows who the party prefers. But if the party chair does not believe said candidate is "electable" or uses some other standard, the party can elect someone else. For example, if Clinton and Obama turn out to be neck and neck after all the primary counts are in, and if Clinton was the delegate winner (narrowly of course), the DNC can still select Obama because he might seem more electable, or whatever.Kmarion wrote:
It has only happened a few times. If they do that they are usually fined and it's probably the end of them .Mek-Izzle wrote:
Hmm. Ok so you have this delagate system, and basically at the end of all these primary elections. Candidates have a number of delegates for themselves, and then they (the delegates) vote and that's a typical numbers vote and who wins, wins.
But
What's stopping a delegate, even though he's with one candidate. To just randomly vote for another during the delegate voting bit? Either because he was bribed or, simply for the lulz?
Unless I've got it sort of wrong.
Could be wrong, but I don't think it's illegal or unethical..it's the discretion of the party chair I thought. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Last edited by IRONCHEF (2008-02-05 11:52:13)
I see. So it's all a matter of bribing them with an amount roughly 2/3X higher than the fine....
Last edited by Mek-Izzle (2008-02-05 11:47:56)
Dem nomination almost guaranteed to come down to super delegates!
http://www.openleft.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=3633
Say it with me: Selected, not elected.
http://www.openleft.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=3633
Say it with me: Selected, not elected.
Everyone on the same page here? 2,025 delegates needed to clinch, but the Obama has made such a contest of it that realistically neither one of them can win enough pledged delegates (i.e. delegates you earn by picking up districts and winning the state popular vote) to do it. Which means it falls to the 796 unpledged “super” delegates — the party elite, many of whom are accountable to no one — to decide.From this point, quick math shows that after Super Tuesday, only 1,428 pledged delegates will still be available. Now, here is where the problem shows up. According to current polling averages, the largest possible victory for either candidate on Super Tuesday will be Clinton 889 pledged delegates, to 799 pledged delegates for Obama. (In all likelihood, the winning margin will be lower than this, but using these numbers helps emphasize the seriousness of the situation.) As such, the largest possible pledged delegate margin Clinton can have after Super Tuesday is 937 to 862. (While it is possible Obama will lead in pledged delegates after Super Tuesday, it does not currently seem possible for Obama to have a larger lead than 75). That leaves Clinton 1,088 pledged delegates from clinching the nomination, with only 1,428 pledged delegates remaining. Thus, in order to win the nomination without the aid of super delegates, in her best-case scenario after Super Tuesday, Clinton would need to win 76.2% of all remaining pledged delegates. Given our proportional delegate system, there is simply no way that is going to happen unless Obama drops out.
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just got back from performing my civic duty. ran into my mom at the polling station too.KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
Have you voted yet, chump?GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
that its too early to be asking that questionMek-Izzle wrote:
I will personally hold responsible all Americans on this forum if Clinton wins. Especially ATG, and especially usmarine
Seriously though, what are the early results saying?
I haven't.
Ron Paul right? ..GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
just got back from performing my civic duty. ran into my mom at the polling station too.KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
Have you voted yet, chump?GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
that its too early to be asking that question
I haven't.
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Ah. So Mrs. Clinton will win the Democratic candidacy, regardless of today's results. Or does anyone see Mr. Obama beating Hillary in intra-party armtwisting?Kmarion wrote:
Which means it falls to the 796 unpledged “super” delegates — the party elite, many of whom are accountable to no one — to decide.
do you even have to ask, of course.Kmarion wrote:
Ron Paul right? ..GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
just got back from performing my civic duty. ran into my mom at the polling station too.KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
Have you voted yet, chump?
I haven't.
You ass, you will probably get karma for that lie..lolGunSlinger OIF II wrote:
do you even have to ask, of course.Kmarion wrote:
Ron Paul right? ..GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
just got back from performing my civic duty. ran into my mom at the polling station too.
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he made 5 million in one day!
Too many moving parts. Here is a thought.apollo_fi wrote:
Ah. So Mrs. Clinton will win the Democratic candidacy, regardless of today's results. Or does anyone see Mr. Obama beating Hillary in intra-party armtwisting?Kmarion wrote:
Which means it falls to the 796 unpledged “super” delegates — the party elite, many of whom are accountable to no one — to decide.
If this comes to pass, the smart thing to do is of course give the nomination to Obama.
But will they? How much of a hold does the Clinton machine have on the superdelegates?
If the party establishment denies the nomination to the black man, especially if he's ahead... well, there would be some anger.
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