What! Please dont confuse Spirituality with religion. Religion can be full of shit; but spirituality, if true, cannot be judged by the misunderstandings and knowledge of simple men.Reciprocity wrote:
since religion and spirituality are 99% bullshit wrapped in horse shit, I'm all in for world peace.
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If You Could Have Only One, Which One Would You Choose?
| My faith | 18% | 18% - 35 | ||||
| World Peace | 81% | 81% - 153 | ||||
| Total: 188 | ||||||
you are describing an agnostic. Atheists do no believe and most likely wont believe it even if its in front your eyes. Common sense rules the day.sergeriver wrote:
Eh, different words, but similar concept.oug wrote:
Atheists don't "believe" in the absence of god. They just don't "know" of the existence of any god, and therefore, until some sort of proof is provided for the opposite, act as they would if there wasn't one. At least that's how I feel.sergeriver wrote:
Atheists believe there's no God.
it's the new hip thingGunSlinger OIF II wrote:
another thread where everyone wants to share with everyone else how much of a championship atheist they are
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World peace is out of the question, for world peace we can have no countries, no money, no leaders, almost like communism, but better, world peace will never, ever happen, humans were meant to fight, and die.
By saying "atheists believe there's no God" I'm describing an Agnostic? An Agnostic is a person who hasn't the necessary knowledge to claim there is or not a God.GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
you are describing an agnostic. Atheists do no believe and most likely wont believe it even if its in front your eyes. Common sense rules the day.sergeriver wrote:
Eh, different words, but similar concept.oug wrote:
Atheists don't "believe" in the absence of god. They just don't "know" of the existence of any god, and therefore, until some sort of proof is provided for the opposite, act as they would if there wasn't one. At least that's how I feel.
nah, but you could be turned into a little annoying welshman.Kommander_Kale wrote:
Could.....could i fly?stef10 wrote:
Also that the laws of physics will be changed.
I don't have faith and I don't have fate in world peace either. Pacifism is like saying someday people won't need oxygen any more.
and agnostic person says he doesn't know wether there is a god or not.sergeriver wrote:
By saying "atheists believe there's no God" I'm describing an Agnostic? An Agnostic is a person who hasn't the necessary knowledge to claim there is or not a God.GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
you are describing an agnostic. Atheists do no believe and most likely wont believe it even if its in front your eyes. Common sense rules the day.sergeriver wrote:
Eh, different words, but similar concept.
An atheist knows there is no god.
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I was ready to convert if you told me i could fly....... And welsh i could deal with, only the little bit would get to me. I do so love being tall.stef10 wrote:
nah, but you could be turned into a little annoying welshman.Kommander_Kale wrote:
Could.....could i fly?stef10 wrote:
Also that the laws of physics will be changed.
im curious who chose faith besides me.
I would if I had any and if you count ideals as faith, rather than just religion, I will any time!siciliano732 wrote:
im curious who chose faith besides me.
I've never heard it said better.Reciprocity wrote:
since religion and spirituality are 99% bullshit wrapped in horse shit, I'm all in for world peace.
15 more years! 15 more years!
And in what would World Peace be wrapped then? Pacifism is as worst as religion as any other and considering that one can't hold a "liberal view" on total pacifism, it's worse! Surely World Peace is a far of as heaven or hell.Mitch wrote:
I've never heard it said better.Reciprocity wrote:
since religion and spirituality are 99% bullshit wrapped in horse shit, I'm all in for world peace.
1st - Faith and peace is not an either/or situation.
2nd - Peace will not occur on earth until Christ returns.
3rd - Worship can be exhibited by outward actions, however most of it is internal. Hence, no way anyone could know if I'm worshiping or not.
4th - How can it be true "peace" if people are forced to renounce their faith? Sounds more like communist China than peace.
2nd - Peace will not occur on earth until Christ returns.
3rd - Worship can be exhibited by outward actions, however most of it is internal. Hence, no way anyone could know if I'm worshiping or not.
4th - How can it be true "peace" if people are forced to renounce their faith? Sounds more like communist China than peace.
Geez, it's a dilemma, you must choose one. It doesn't mean it will happen, lol.Stingray24 wrote:
1st - Faith and peace is not an either/or situation.
2nd - Peace will not occur on earth until Christ returns.
3rd - Worship can be exhibited by outward actions, however most of it is internal. Hence, no way anyone could know if I'm worshiping or not.
4th - How can it be true "peace" if people are forced to renounce their faith? Sounds more like communist China than peace.
Well, how can a reborn Christ bring "true peace" on a planet where faith in him is a minority, if renouncing faith excludes the possibility of it? Is he just going to magically change the way people see things, and isn't that in itself forcing people?Stingray24 wrote:
1st - Faith and peace is not an either/or situation.
2nd - Peace will not occur on earth until Christ returns.
3rd - Worship can be exhibited by outward actions, however most of it is internal. Hence, no way anyone could know if I'm worshiping or not.
4th - How can it be true "peace" if people are forced to renounce their faith? Sounds more like communist China than peace.
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I think the guy will come here and take all the followers to heaven, and the rest of us will go to hell.mikkel wrote:
Well, how can a reborn Christ bring "true peace" on a planet where faith in him is a minority, if renouncing faith excludes the possibility of it?Stingray24 wrote:
1st - Faith and peace is not an either/or situation.
2nd - Peace will not occur on earth until Christ returns.
3rd - Worship can be exhibited by outward actions, however most of it is internal. Hence, no way anyone could know if I'm worshiping or not.
4th - How can it be true "peace" if people are forced to renounce their faith? Sounds more like communist China than peace.
I can't wait for all this peace!sergeriver wrote:
I think the guy will come here and take all the followers to heaven, and the rest of us will go to hell.mikkel wrote:
Well, how can a reborn Christ bring "true peace" on a planet where faith in him is a minority, if renouncing faith excludes the possibility of it?Stingray24 wrote:
1st - Faith and peace is not an either/or situation.
2nd - Peace will not occur on earth until Christ returns.
3rd - Worship can be exhibited by outward actions, however most of it is internal. Hence, no way anyone could know if I'm worshiping or not.
4th - How can it be true "peace" if people are forced to renounce their faith? Sounds more like communist China than peace.
The devil is gay, I saw that in South Park.mikkel wrote:
I can't wait for all this peace!sergeriver wrote:
I think the guy will come here and take all the followers to heaven, and the rest of us will go to hell.mikkel wrote:
Well, how can a reborn Christ bring "true peace" on a planet where faith in him is a minority, if renouncing faith excludes the possibility of it?
Looks like its time for yet another:
Atheism in my view isn't necessarily a belief. It's a lack of belief. It is not affirming the lack of a god, it is simply refusing to accept a belief in god. There is a difference.dayarath wrote:
and agnostic person says he doesn't know wether there is a god or not.sergeriver wrote:
By saying "atheists believe there's no God" I'm describing an Agnostic? An Agnostic is a person who hasn't the necessary knowledge to claim there is or not a God.GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
you are describing an agnostic. Atheists do no believe and most likely wont believe it even if its in front your eyes. Common sense rules the day.
An atheist knows there is no god.
Atheism is similar to religion in one major way - everyone's interpretation of what it is to be * differs. In that sense, religion and atheism are more a philosophical question of self than anything else.
In that case I take my claims of atheism back: by that description, i am an agnostic.GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
you are describing an agnostic. Atheists do no believe and most likely wont believe it even if its in front your eyes. Common sense rules the day.
-konfusion
BBQ!mikkel wrote:
I can't wait for all this peace!sergeriver wrote:
I think the guy will come here and take all the followers to heaven, and the rest of us will go to hell.mikkel wrote:
Well, how can a reborn Christ bring "true peace" on a planet where faith in him is a minority, if renouncing faith excludes the possibility of it?
Renouncing faith would automatically exclude the possibility of a peace made by humanity. Christ will accomplish peace by restraining evil (Satan) for 1,000 years. The Bible details this in the Book of Revelation.mikkel wrote:
Well, how can a reborn Christ bring "true peace" on a planet where faith in him is a minority, if renouncing faith excludes the possibility of it? Is he just going to magically change the way people see things, and isn't that in itself forcing people?Stingray24 wrote:
1st - Faith and peace is not an either/or situation.
2nd - Peace will not occur on earth until Christ returns.
3rd - Worship can be exhibited by outward actions, however most of it is internal. Hence, no way anyone could know if I'm worshiping or not.
4th - How can it be true "peace" if people are forced to renounce their faith? Sounds more like communist China than peace.
Atheism is the belief that God does not exist, what you're describing is closer to an agnostic.oug wrote:
Atheists don't "believe" in the absence of god. They just don't "know" of the existence of any god, and therefore, until some sort of proof is provided for the opposite, act as they would if there wasn't one. At least that's how I feel.sergeriver wrote:
Atheists believe there's no God.Flaming_Maniac wrote:
Atheists don't get to believe in atheism kids.
Atheism is a religion, or at the very least a cult as much as typical religion is. You can't say if you believe in God anymore you have to give up that belief for world peace, but if you already don't believe in God than you can just go for world peace. Believing there is no God makes just as little sense as believing in God, serge you're just letting your personal views bias your opinions.