It will never change a thing no matter what.
I understand Israel's response to this, but I'm glad the U.S. is communicating with the Palestinians at a grave time like this.
US is the one who can fix that. Clinton was so close.Turquoise wrote:
I understand Israel's response to this, but I'm glad the U.S. is communicating with the Palestinians at a grave time like this.
It cannot be fixed dude.sergeriver wrote:
US is the one who can fix that. Clinton was so close.Turquoise wrote:
I understand Israel's response to this, but I'm glad the U.S. is communicating with the Palestinians at a grave time like this.
You are a bit pessimist about this issue.usmarine2007 wrote:
It cannot be fixed dude.sergeriver wrote:
US is the one who can fix that. Clinton was so close.Turquoise wrote:
I understand Israel's response to this, but I'm glad the U.S. is communicating with the Palestinians at a grave time like this.
He was... Clinton can be criticized for many things, but one thing he did well was arrange those peace talks.sergeriver wrote:
US is the one who can fix that. Clinton was so close.Turquoise wrote:
I understand Israel's response to this, but I'm glad the U.S. is communicating with the Palestinians at a grave time like this.
We'll need someone else in office to bring us back to an agreement of that magnitude. I'm guessing Obama or Mike Huckabee could probably arrange something like that if either of them entered the presidency.
We have to keep trying. Whats the alternative?usmarine2007 wrote:
It cannot be fixed dude.sergeriver wrote:
US is the one who can fix that. Clinton was so close.Turquoise wrote:
I understand Israel's response to this, but I'm glad the U.S. is communicating with the Palestinians at a grave time like this.
A couple minutemen.ATG wrote:
We have to keep trying. Whats the alternative?usmarine2007 wrote:
It cannot be fixed dude.sergeriver wrote:
US is the one who can fix that. Clinton was so close.
Fight fire with fire? From what I learned water is the most efficiant solution.
What do the scorpions have to do with this topic?
I know that reads well on a forum, but is not valid as a solution unless you are advocating the extermination of the Palestinians.usmarine2007 wrote:
A couple minutemen.ATG wrote:
We have to keep trying. Whats the alternative?usmarine2007 wrote:
It cannot be fixed dude.
Are you???
Oooh. Great solution that.usmarine2007 wrote:
A couple minutemen.ATG wrote:
We have to keep trying. Whats the alternative?usmarine2007 wrote:
It cannot be fixed dude.
Advocating genocide.
It could be fixed and the US could fix it, but only by being harsh with Israel, who tend to be uncooperative bastards. They almost had something sorted when Rabin was in power, but then some war mongering Israelis shot him.
The palestinian leaders who talk with Israel and the US typically can't control the people who commit and support the violence.
I would say that is true about the Jewish side.san4 wrote:
The palestinian leaders who talk with Israel and the US typically can't control the people who commit and support the violence.
As Bertster correctly pointed out, powerful Jews advocated for peace with Palestine usually end up dead.
Screw that, its not our problem. Britain can fix it, it is their problem. Why is it their problem? Because they started this whole thing in the first place.sergeriver wrote:
US is the one who can fix that. Clinton was so close.Turquoise wrote:
I understand Israel's response to this, but I'm glad the U.S. is communicating with the Palestinians at a grave time like this.
I know what you mean, but diplomacy is a good thing. Advocating for peace is certainly better than most invasions.iamangry wrote:
Screw that, its not our problem. Britain can fix it, it is their problem. Why is it their problem? Because they started this whole thing in the first place.sergeriver wrote:
US is the one who can fix that. Clinton was so close.Turquoise wrote:
I understand Israel's response to this, but I'm glad the U.S. is communicating with the Palestinians at a grave time like this.
That's an interesting take on the situation. I'd say the Zionist movement with US backing started this whole thing.iamangry wrote:
Screw that, its not our problem. Britain can fix it, it is their problem. Why is it their problem? Because they started this whole thing in the first place.sergeriver wrote:
US is the one who can fix that. Clinton was so close.Turquoise wrote:
I understand Israel's response to this, but I'm glad the U.S. is communicating with the Palestinians at a grave time like this.
If you really want to get down to basics....blame the germans.....but nevermind who created the problem...lets try to find out how it can be solved instead.
it's a problem we helped create, so it is our responsibility, along with other nations, to help resolve the situation. what i find humorous is the we demand democracy in Palestine, so they ELECT terrorists, and then we're somehow surprised and upset.
Nope. The roots of this problem are older than Hitlers antics. It had hit crisis point quite a bit before the start of WWII, when Zionnist terrorism was at it's peak. Some Zionist terrorist organisations (branches of Lehi) even entered into talks with the Nazis encouraging the forcible expulsion of Jews to Palestine.[F7F7]KiNG_KaDaFFHi wrote:
If you really want to get down to basics....blame the germans.....but nevermind who created the problem...lets try to find out how it can be solved instead.
You might be right Berster but I beleive Isreal wouldn´t have been created if WW2 hadn´t taken place.
I think he's referring to Britain's occupation of Palestine and the subsequent process of settling Jews there. That really is the beginning of the problem. Granted, what you mentioned is the more relevant case of today's politics.Bertster7 wrote:
That's an interesting take on the situation. I'd say the Zionist movement with US backing started this whole thing.iamangry wrote:
Screw that, its not our problem. Britain can fix it, it is their problem. Why is it their problem? Because they started this whole thing in the first place.sergeriver wrote:
US is the one who can fix that. Clinton was so close.
I'm well aware of what he's refering to. I just think he's wrong. The US were the driving force behind the establishment of the state of Israel. The British didn't want them in Palestine, which is why they kept putting Uganda on the table.Turquoise wrote:
I think he's referring to Britain's occupation of Palestine and the subsequent process of settling Jews there. That really is the beginning of the problem. Granted, what you mentioned is the more relevant case of today's politics.Bertster7 wrote:
That's an interesting take on the situation. I'd say the Zionist movement with US backing started this whole thing.iamangry wrote:
Screw that, its not our problem. Britain can fix it, it is their problem. Why is it their problem? Because they started this whole thing in the first place.
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How did America influence this back in the 1800s, or are you just talking about the state being created in 1948? Jews had established themselves in the area quite a while before that, so it was only natural to have a Jewish state there eventually.Bertster7 wrote:
I'm well aware of what he's refering to. I just think he's wrong. The US were the driving force behind the establishment of the state of Israel.Turquoise wrote:
I think he's referring to Britain's occupation of Palestine and the subsequent process of settling Jews there. That really is the beginning of the problem. Granted, what you mentioned is the more relevant case of today's politics.Bertster7 wrote:
That's an interesting take on the situation. I'd say the Zionist movement with US backing started this whole thing.
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