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How you guys doing with Archeology? Im at 450 i think. Now thats a grind.
I can say healing is a lot harder than before. On my Druid, I could roll rejuves on everyone and spam wild growth and never get below 90% mana. Now, if I do that I go OOM very fast. I like the challenge but the days of the healer carrying the group are over. If dps or the tank are doing something wrong they are going to die.
Anyone have comments on the changes made to the game? The next expansion will hit in a month.
I didn't say it was the US's responsibility. What I am saying is the US prefers Mexico to remain a 3rd world country.
Like the US what ever let Mexico emerge out of a 3rd world situation to become a more powerful nation. They wouldn't. The US is fine with Mexico remaining a poor nation. That's the reality.
wow and double jointed!!!
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Congrats to Mexico for having the most beautiful girl in the universe.
Congrats to Mexico for having the most beautiful girl in the universe.
I find it amusing that this started off as another "Fuckin illegals fucking up my country" thread and turned into exactly what it should have been in the first place, a debate on the level of punishment a drunk driver should get for killing someone. That's all. Carry on.
Arizona will suffer for this. It already is. Commerce will suffer and then they'll repeal the law. The truth is, I bet, that the majority of Americans are on the immigrants side. Arizona will end up looking like they did when they were finally forced to recognize a MLK holiday.
edit: Actually looks like the majority do approve of the bill. But still the ones that don't will over power those that do.
edit: Actually looks like the majority do approve of the bill. But still the ones that don't will over power those that do.
The killer may get off scott free but real irony would be having one of his kids grow up and exact revenge on this clerk. That would make me smile.
The debate has moved to the NBA. I think it's pretty cool. Discuss.
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They have there own stores. That's how much they are part of our economy. They have THEIR own fucking stores. They are latino markets. Just like Stater Bros, Albertsons, Ralph's, etc. They are chained stores so you'll find them in any LA suburb. Sell the same shit but with more of an ethnic food selection.cpt.fass1 wrote:
So who commits most the crime in Los Angeles?rawls2 wrote:
I live in the heart of illegal-dom. Los Angeles baby!! I see illegals everyday, waiting on the corner hoping some asian or another mexican will come by in a van and give work for that day. I don't see them tagging, selling drugs, or anything other than looking for a job. Are there criminal elements mixed up in the bunch? I'm sure there are but that's everywhere and done by all races, with citizenship or not. The comment about shooting them was meant for the others in this thread that have mentioned it.cpt.fass1 wrote:
Ok I'm stupid? By the way I've never once said mexican or brought race into it. It's the illegal population as a whole from everywhere. I also don't watch fox news but anyway, when did I say "shot" them? Also it's you're not your.
Our jails are over crowded with Illegals? I'm not a fox news jumper but I also see it first hand I lived in jersey city witch was a highly hispanic area. Many of whom are hard working citizen who are also sick of the illegals.
Where are you living that you don't deal with Illegal Aliens?
P.S. when you go to the store do you see allot of "Illegal Immigrant" shopping. Just wondering because in Jersey City, one of the hearts of the illegals up here, you never see them in any kind of store..
I live in the heart of illegal-dom. Los Angeles baby!! I see illegals everyday, waiting on the corner hoping some asian or another mexican will come by in a van and give work for that day. I dont see them tagging, selling drugs, or anything other than looking for a job. Are there criminal elements mixed up in the bunch? Im sure there are but thats everywhere and done by all races, with citizenship or not. The comment about shooting them was meant for the others in this thread that have mentioned it.cpt.fass1 wrote:
Ok I'm stupid? By the way I've never once said mexican or brought race into it. It's the illegal population as a whole from everywhere. I also don't watch fox news but anyway, when did I say "shot" them? Also it's you're not your.rawls2 wrote:
YOU have to understand your stupid. No way in hell are the majority of illegal Mexicans criminals the way you describe them, just no way. Your just jumping on whatever FOX news has got on TV right now. And anyone even mentioning actually going out and shooting these people is really really sad and retarded. Put your balls where your mouths are and go use illegals as target practice, don't just talk about it.cpt.fass1 wrote:
Are you guys blind to the notion that we're not getting these hard working, educated people that are just looking for a fair shot in the U.S?
The people who are coming over are living in shanty towns up and down our land and equivalent to Gypsies. They work our food industry jobs with third world country ailments, they get weapons and rob or sell drugs. They are not these law abiding citizens who just want to work hard for low wages. Why can't you understand that?
Our jails are over crowded with Illegals? I'm not a fox news jumper but I also see it first hand I lived in jersey city witch was a highly hispanic area. Many of whom are hard working citizen who are also sick of the illegals.
Where are you living that you don't deal with Illegal Aliens?
YOU have to understand your stupid. No way in hell are the majority of illegal Mexicans criminals the way you describe them, just no way. Your just jumping on whatever FOX news has got on TV right now. And anyone even mentioning actually going out and shooting these people is really really sad and retarded. Put your balls where your mouths are and go use illegals as target practice, don't just talk about it.cpt.fass1 wrote:
Are you guys blind to the notion that we're not getting these hard working, educated people that are just looking for a fair shot in the U.S?
The people who are coming over are living in shanty towns up and down our land and equivalent to Gypsies. They work our food industry jobs with third world country ailments, they get weapons and rob or sell drugs. They are not these law abiding citizens who just want to work hard for low wages. Why can't you understand that?
Amazing how no one bats an eye at the fact that American companies are making a lot of money setting up shop inside other countries yet one individual crosses our border for peanuts and all hell breaks loose.west-phoenix-az wrote:
It's true that I want less government, but one thing I expect from the government is border protection.
I don't know. To me it would work. There is a demand for their services or else they wouldn't be here.lowing wrote:
welfare recipients do not pay income taxes, and neither do illegal immigrants. Ya see the truth is, ya just can't sell citizenship, there kinda needs to a market in need of filling. Most countries do not just let people in, they need to be able to fill a need within their country.rawls2 wrote:
Would you be factoring the tax revenues that each person would be bringing in? Hell, charge them twice the tax as citizens for a probationary period.
Would you be factoring the tax revenues that each person would be bringing in? Hell, charge them twice the tax as citizens for a probationary period.
Meh...it costs an illegal anywhere from 2k-5k to get "smuggled" into the US. Open the borders, sell citizenship for $2,500 a pop, presto.....were on our way towards economic recovery.
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Havent played bf2 in awhile. Was only 20k points away from my 1 star general rank. How is bf2 these days? Does the ranking system still work?
True. Better yet instead of shooting them I can line them up on the curb and take them out "American History X" style. Oh, I love the irony.Parker wrote:
make sure you get em in the back, or it doesnt countrawls2 wrote:
There's this group of white kids always hanging outside my lawn. Sometimes they fuck around and litter it and shit. Now if I come home and they are there I'm popping a 357 slug in each one of those fuckers cuz I'm being trespassed on. Thank you Texas for making me realize my rights to kill lawbreakers. Woot and I'm Mexican. Think about how that story would fly.Hakei wrote:
Yeah, it is. You're stupid enough to enter someone's house and steal from them, expect getting shot. They shouldn't have done it in the first place.
You can give as much "Human life no price blah blah blah" Bullshit, but at the end of the day if you're stupid enough to go stealing from people, expect that somewhere, someday you're going to get fucked right back.
Play with feathers, you get your arse tickled.
There's this group of white kids always hanging outside my lawn. Sometimes they fuck around and litter it and shit. Now if I come home and they are there I'm popping a 357 slug in each one of those fuckers cuz I'm being trespassed on. Thank you Texas for making me realize my rights to kill lawbreakers. Woot and I'm Mexican. Think about how that story would fly.Hakei wrote:
Yeah, it is. You're stupid enough to enter someone's house and steal from them, expect getting shot. They shouldn't have done it in the first place.Parker wrote:
common sense?Snake wrote:
For once, common sense seems to have prevailed.
so, property is equal to a persons life?
this right here gentlemen, is inexperience talking.
You can give as much "Human life no price blah blah blah" Bullshit, but at the end of the day if you're stupid enough to go stealing from people, expect that somewhere, someday you're going to get fucked right back.
Play with feathers, you get your arse tickled.
And you see nothing wrong with this?rammunition wrote:
we know it was the west bank but "Islamc Jihad" members were killed in the west bank, some are located in Gaza and they said they fired back as retaliationrawls2 wrote:
The truce involved Gaza not the West Bank. Its hard to find diplomatic solution when one side has no idea/control of what their own members do.rammunition wrote:
its known as RETALIATION, maybe the Zio-Nazi's shouldn't have killed the 2 "Militants" in the west bank, again the Zio-Nazi's wants to be seen as the "victim"
The truce involved Gaza not the West Bank. Its hard to find diplomatic solution when one side has no idea/control of what their own members do.rammunition wrote:
its known as RETALIATION, maybe the Zio-Nazi's shouldn't have killed the 2 "Militants" in the west bank, again the Zio-Nazi's wants to be seen as the "victim"Lotta_Drool wrote:
JERUSALEM — Palestinian militants on Tuesday fired three homemade rockets into southern Israel, the first such attack since a cease-fire between Israel and Gaza militants took effect last week.
Israel condemned the attack as a "gross violation" of the truce, but did not say whether it would retaliate.
The barrage wounded two people and capped a day of violence that presented the truce with its first serious test.
Just before midnight, Palestinian militants fired a mortar shell into an empty area in southern Israel. And in a pre-dawn raid, Israeli troops killed two Palestinians in the West Bank city of Nablus.
Islamic Jihad, a small armed group backed by Syria and Iran, claimed responsibility for the rocket fire. Although the West Bank is not included in the truce, the group said the Nablus raid had soured the atmosphere of calm.
I see a connection with the "racists" on this forum and those who chose to blindly support Bush through out the years. These are the people who are more succeptible to "spin" and argue the issues they are bieng spoon fed. Shame on you for not bieng able to distinguish real issues and only focusing on what is bieng dangled in front of you.
They should get royalties. The Iraqis buy the plant, they buy the training, but they cant buy the trade secrets that go with refining oil. I would assume the royalties are to compensate for the technology owned by the oil companies bieng used by the Iraqi's. I could be wrong though.CameronPoe wrote:
Usually oil companies get a royalty on oil sold. That's what I'm complaining about.Pug wrote:
Normally this is what happens. I didn't see anything in the story (in the heavily scrutinized 10 secs I spent skimming the article) that indicated this would be different.CameronPoe wrote:
And as to the foreign oil companies issue: why should they get a cut of the action? A country should pay them for the installation of the facilities, pay them to train people to man and maintain the facilities and then fuck off until paid to carry out subsequent training or supply parts.
If the law actually forbids companies from hiring Iraqis I'd be a little surprised.
I thought the article said it's unfair for small oil companies because they can't bid as high.
Not everyone can be winners.Braddock wrote:
Well not everyone has a steady supply of firepower and military equipment from the US I suppose.Lotta_Drool wrote:
Cease Fire = Hamas ran out of rockets, money, and people. Don't worry kiddies, it usually only takes a year for them to get reloaded and reorganized.
Besides, there are more groups than hamas that want Israel destroyed.
A key reason why I side with Israel.AutralianChainsaw wrote:
- Impossible unless you remove all illegal settlements.. and what about Jerusalem? you keep it? you leave it? you split it?Lisik wrote:
- Two states solution.CameronPoe wrote:
Lisik and Rammunition, please state your opinions on the Palestinian issue and proceed to argue your corners.
- 10 metres electric fence between the two.
- Release of all prisoners from both sides.
- Complete cut off of all Israeli supplies to Palestinians.
Salam aleikum.
- Good idea, the fence must be sitting on pre 1967 borders
- A one way move since the pals have no prisonners.. excpet that guy Gilad who is probably dead.
- Like another poster said, if you remove the blockade, the pals will be happy to deal with the rest of the world.
shalom
I smell Karl Rove. Anybody else?
Simple and to the point, nicely done.Lisik wrote:
- Two states solution.CameronPoe wrote:
Lisik and Rammunition, please state your opinions on the Palestinian issue and proceed to argue your corners.
- 10 metres electric fence between the two.
- Release of all prisoners from both sides.
- Complete cut off of all Israeli supplies to Palestinians.
Salam aleikum.
Look. We all know full well that if the Israel government was truly as evil as you all say they are they could have leveled Lebonan last year in a half hour. But the civilised world doesn't fight like that anymore. It means alot when a country has the capability to wipe out its neighbors but it doesn't.Braddock wrote:
And when you act like the Israelis do don't cry when you get the shit kicked out of you by the same people whose houses you are bombing...notice a pattern emerging?rawls2 wrote:
My point is this...He gets his ass kicked its ok hes a soldier....he drops them with a gun (cuz he is a soldier) Pali's cry foul. If you do shit like this dont cry when you get hellfires raining down from the sky.Braddock wrote:
Well it would probably depend on how it was edited, wouldn't it? The guy getting attacked was a soldier, operating in an occupied territory. Imagine Mexico invaded the Southern United States, how do you think a Mexican soldier would be treated cruising around Houston, Texas with his uniform on?
My point is this...He gets his ass kicked its ok hes a soldier....he drops them with a gun (cuz he is a soldier) Pali's cry foul. If you do shit like this dont cry when you get hellfires raining down from the sky.Braddock wrote:
Well it would probably depend on how it was edited, wouldn't it? The guy getting attacked was a soldier, operating in an occupied territory. Imagine Mexico invaded the Southern United States, how do you think a Mexican soldier would be treated cruising around Houston, Texas with his uniform on?rawls2 wrote:
Im curious as to what would have happened if the guy getting rocks tossed at him busts out an M-16 and starts dropping guys. What would the world have said? Would they be indifferent seeing how the guy was defending himself or would they go ape shit and use the video as "proof" of Israels aggression.Braddock wrote:
I don't agree with that entirely...the guy who gets out first and flees looks like a regular member of the public and as such I can't personally condone any attacks on him. However, the other guy appears to be wearing an army uniform so I have no sympathy for him.
Im curious as to what would have happened if the guy getting rocks tossed at him busts out an M-16 and starts dropping guys. What would the world have said? Would they be indifferent seeing how the guy was defending himself or would they go ape shit and use the video as "proof" of Israels aggression.Braddock wrote:
I don't agree with that entirely...the guy who gets out first and flees looks like a regular member of the public and as such I can't personally condone any attacks on him. However, the other guy appears to be wearing an army uniform so I have no sympathy for him.rammunition wrote:
no sympathy from me, the scum got what he deservedLisik wrote:
Interesting how much of these were arrested...
No group of people is going to turn down a chunk of land handed to them by the worlds superpowers. And they certainly aren't going to give it back when surrounding neighbors try to take it back. The arabs had there chance to influence the region but they chose another path.CameronPoe wrote:
Yeah Zionist immigrants didn't do anything did they? France, USA and the UK drove the Palestinians from their homes, massacring several villages and appropriating Palestinian property. Do even the most cursory google search of the following terms please: Irgun, Lehi, Haganah, Kind David Hotel bombing. I take it David Ben Gurion was forced into creating the state that would inevitably disenfranchise and bring misfortune upon the existing inhabitants of the land, eh?rawls2 wrote:
How naive can you be. Israel was founded by other nations. How could you expect them to say "No we don't want that land because it belongs to someone else." Blame France, Germany, UK, and us but not the Israelis.CameronPoe wrote:
I just checked your BF2 stats: you're Danish - that explains everything... and you're probably the one who left me that karma. You should get a clue and read about the birth of Israel. You guys got invaded by Nazi Germany - that wasn't fun was it? Same shit happened to the Palestinians. Your black and white view of the world is immature, vacuous and helps noone.
How naive can you be. Israel was founded by other nations. How could you expect them to say "No we dont want that land becasue it belongs to someone else." Blame France, Gremany, UK, and us but not the Israelis.CameronPoe wrote:
I just checked your BF2 stats: you're Danish - that explains everything... and you're probably the one who left me that karma. You should get a clue and read about the birth of Israel. You guys got invaded by Nazi Germany - that wasn't fun was it? Same shit happened to the Palestinians. Your black and white view of the world is immature, vacuous and helps noone.Dr.PhiL wrote:
This propaganda is contradicting the propaganda
Yes but now the Israeli's have added their piece of the propaganda by "arresting" the perpetrators, you know, just going thru the motions.Braddock wrote:
But I thought it was all a big fake for propaganda purposes, no?Lotta_Drool wrote:
I'm sure the Hamas government is busy tracking down Palestinian terrorist that attack Israelis with bats.rawls2 wrote:
Those evil Israeli's. Im confused though. I thought they would have been caught and given a heros parade. ??
Hmmm just like the Pali martyrs, interesting.m3thod wrote:
Just going through motions. Do you really think these people are going to be eventually prosecuted? It's a show.rawls2 wrote:
But I dont understand why Israel bothered to catch them in the first place or even better not give them sanctuary?m3thod wrote:
Don't worry they already celebrate the deeds of their terrorists.
And i was referring to Israeli Terrorist who are celebrated like Baruch Goldstein and people who go along to parties to celebrate the anniversary of a terrorist attack like i dunno former prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu (60th anniversary of King David Hotel Bombing).
Perception needs to change.
But I dont understand why Israel bothered to catch them in the first place or even better not give them sanctuary?m3thod wrote:
Don't worry they already celebrate the deeds of their terrorists.rawls2 wrote:
Those evil Israeli's. Im confused though. I thought they would have been caught and given a heros parade. ??CameronPoe wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7458926.stm
Wow the 'Palestinian Propaganda' was so realistic that the culprits have actually been arrested by the Israeli police.... lol
Those evil Israeli's. Im confused though. I thought they would have been caught and given a heros parade. ??CameronPoe wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7458926.stm
Wow the 'Palestinian Propaganda' was so realistic that the culprits have actually been arrested by the Israeli police.... lol
He said he's a wide receiver lol.Lotta_Drool wrote:
It is not true, I just have a wide stance!Mek-Stizzle wrote:
Lotta_Drool, more like Lotta_Fool
Change? What change? Like turning the wholesome freedom loving Christian Debate and Serious talk into a Muslim forum? With your Muslim upbringing. Look how he uses the internet, do you know terrorists also use the internet? A vote for Lotta_Fool is a vote for Al_Queada!
So what government do you like? Any at all? Who do you compare us to when you make these judgements? Is there ever been a country like us to be compared to? Just wondering.
No way man. I am so enlightened it's not funny. Its not racist to think white people should not bitch about percieved racism against them. You see blacks bieng racist towards whites, let them be. They are only hurting themselves. I mean whats the worst that can happen.God Save the Queen wrote:
ignorance could be one reason. the most likely.Mek-Stizzle wrote:
Isn't Rawls Latino or something? Probably a Mestizo? How can you hate on your own ancestors?
Explain?Mek-Stizzle wrote:
Isn't Rawls Latino or something? Probably a Mestizo? How can you hate on your own ancestors?
I was referring to the US, my leprauchaun friend.CameronPoe wrote:
Yeah - white people never get raped or murdered and slavery of whites is just a myth. A Christian who disbelieves in the Exodus? Hmmmm.rawls2 wrote:
raped, murdered, and enslaved. Pfft.
What irks me the most is how white people want to feel sorry for themselves because they do have to more sensative to race than blacks. Like if you have a history of your generations past bieng raped, murdered, and enslaved. Pfft.
The Control Room in Goldeneye for N64. The very last part where you get swarmed by double gunned special forces all while Nataylia(sp?) is working on a computer station. Very hard.
I believe that God has a plan for the people that is pre-destined. However, he gives us, as individuals, the free will to chose a path that puts you close to him or a path that puts you with the other guy.Turquoise wrote:
It all started with this quote. Kmarion and I were discussing free will in another thread.Kmarion wrote:
You say god created us beforehand knowing every action we would make. But if god gave us control of our souls than that is not true. Given your beliefs it's understandable the concept of soul would elude you.
I personally don't think the idea of a creator demands that a plan is in place as Stingray suggested.
I personally feel that, if God is both omnipotent and omniscient, free will doesn't exist. My argument is that, if God set everything in place knowing exactly how it would all happen, then we're just doing what he planned.
Kmarion feels differently, but I'll let him elaborate...
How do the rest of you feel?
What a kick ass game!! It was so fun to see the Spurs completely fall apart at the end. Gasol is now my second favorite Laker.KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
Not if they let the Lakers steal more games from them.blademaster wrote:
Go Spurs win another title
GO LAKERS!
Would I don't get is why people care. I mean most of the people against the US are also against religion. So how is this a bad thing. On this very forum the bible has been called a fictional collection of stories. So how is the Quran different and why should it matter what the soldier did to it.
Atleast I know I'm not the only bigot here.