Can you morons read or do you just pile on eachother?
Did he ask me for US data? Read again cunts
Did he ask me for US data? Read again cunts
And the whole of US data still doesn't tell you much with places like Florida in the mix. Or most of the R states.SuperJail_Warden wrote:
Did she die because she was sad about the lockdowns? Do you have data to prove a jump?
They're the snootiest of all, world famous for it.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
A continental European calling the English 'snooty' is kind of hilarious you have to admit.
Is Dilbert the far right now?uziq wrote:
criticising the far right is punching down? lmao what am i even reading.Larssen wrote:
Who am I going to discuss the far right with here? Dilbert? That's your hobby. You love to hammer on it because you're 100% English. It's in your veins - a cultural tradition - to punch down. Esp. on the less able. It's why Dilbert shits on low skill poor immigrants and why you shit on Dilbert. It's helped you both feel better about yourselves for a decade. Normal people find no enjoyment in eviscerating the already pathetic.
didn’t a minor princeling just try to return germany to the kaiser?
uziq wrote:
i didn’t read any of that.
No time is wasted to insult or denigrate the other even over the most painful and personal life events. There's real hatred here. It's Tiger King in internet format. Dilbert's = Joe Exotic.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
Would he though? It's always struck me as more of a friendly, mutual hate boner between the two than anything violent?
What irritates me to no end is the scrambling to point fingers elsewhere. What irritates me is the position that the mentions of moroccan football riots in the media are a racist conspiracy. What irritates me is the insinuation that when police got pre-emptively deployed after the first rounds of riots they were the ones provoking violence. I don't like to repeat myself, but the deflection is pretty fucking obvious.uziq wrote:
my guy ... these derby fights happen every time, with depressing regularity and predictability.Larssen wrote:
Philly burning after they win the superbowl, a derby riot, a riot in canada - they would be comparable if the people in question would be rioting after every game played by their team, across cities and borders. Riots occurred in 3 seperate countries with their own socioeconomic contexts, simultaneously, after every game.
why is it that when whites fight over football it's a 'one off' and an 'exception', but a few moroccans burning trash over their world historically, first time ever, world cup performance is a 'structural issue'? hahahah.
let's talk about cardiff vs swansea matches. or even swansea vs bristol matches. every single time it is havoc. police have to be bussed in from other counties to cope with the predictable mayhem. every time. but this isn't a 'structural' problem, right? it's not a malaise that affects working-class whites. no, it's a one-off. these are isolated incidents. easily forgiven.
but the world cup, which happens every 4 years, and for the first time ever in an arab/muslim country ... whew. this is a REAL PROBLEM!
There's this complete cognitive dissonance on the left where people can acknowledge identity groups in their fight for equal rights or what have you and will stand there protesting the system alongside them, but whenever negatives arise the attitude turns to saw nothing, heard nothing. A case of sudden blindness! It was but a few people, but more importantly - look at the white trash over there! They did it too! Just as bad! Worse even!unnamednewbie13 wrote:
Isn't that largely meaningless though? What 'community' doesn't have its toxic behaviors. White males and their mass shootings in America, for one. Should I hold like 100 million men to task for that? Write articles speculating on some social or genetic insanity inherent to the 'white race?' How about when a car got tipped or a window got broken at otherwise quite peaceful BLM demonstrations. "Why are black people like this!" Probably shouldn't, right?Larssen wrote:
I dare say a community can exhibit toxic behaviours.
So did most of like two-million Moroccans riot across France, Belgium, and the Netherlands, or was it, er, a smaller group of people?
There's a difference between incidents and structural issues. Philly burning after they win the superbowl, a derby riot, a riot in canada - they would be comparable if the people in question would be rioting after every game played by their team, across cities and borders. Riots occurred in 3 seperate countries with their own socioeconomic contexts, simultaneously, after every game.uziq wrote:
like i said, larssen, you’re clearly not paying very much attention if you think this is conspicuously poor behaviour or problematic from the morocco fans.
again, i’m not denying that there are specific elements that are using the football as an excuse to break shit and vent frustration. but they’re a fraction of a fraction and it hardly takes deep analysis to wonder why a bunch of ghettoised migrants in belgium or wherever want to throw stones at a platoon of riot police deployed in their neighbourhood.
there was ca. 25,000 people on the champs elysées alone that night. they detained ~150 people city-wide. but you’re telling me there’s a yuuuuge brewing problem in the moroccan community? this is the biggest immigrant group in france ffs. stop reaching.
i’ve seen more damage and more violence and affray in bristol city during a derby weekend between bristol city and bristol rovers football fans. mounted police on horseback being knocked over. shops and pubs destroyed. people seriously wounded. etc. this is people destroying their own city. please stop acting like native whites are this virtuous and civilised group. it’s really embarrassing man.
if it’s ‘champagne socialist’ of me to prefer not to challenge an entire ethnic group on their ‘loyalty’ because a few teenagers got excited at a semi-final, then pass me the fucking magnum of bollinger, baby. you sound like an insipid tabloid-tier cultural commentator.
The riot police were deployed preemptively only after the experience of the previous games. Esp. after the first game, when they were caught offguard by the sudden violent outburst. This ended up repeating itself after every following game. It was even stated in the media that police would be deployed and still the groups in question took to the streets to pick a fight. Not the other way around.uziq wrote:
yes, riot police were deployed pre-emptively before the match even kicked off. lol. this is not hard to verify. the presence of riot police doesn’t constitute a riot. why does this have to be explained to you?
so they lit some trash on fire in the streets? burned a few cars? please explain to me how this hasn’t happened dozens of times per year in the context of other sporting events and fandoms? you can’t have been paying attention very closely.
lmao. ‘exceptionally bad sport to celebrate in this way’. so the current list of charges is that their form of celebrating is most unbecoming and that their happiness over a rare footballing success is ‘dangerously nationalistic’.
you really are reaching my friend.
no, paris did not burn. most people saw the football tournament as a cause for a healthy dose of pride and a feel-good celebration. vast swathes of the diaspora and migrant communities could deal with and process such an event as dual-citizens, without the fabric of european society being torn apart.
did problem youths in molenbeek throw some stones at police and break some windows? undoubtedly. are there historical issues between migrant communities and the police? well duh. but this narrative framing - ‘riots across europe, one particular group behaving this way, deep discord and ominous social rumblings’ - is just alarmist nonsense of the highest order. do better, you show your provincial petit-bourgeois grievances a little too transparently at times.
I'm not sure about that. The current models are being shaken up, but if left to the forces of capitalism - 'free' social media services can only end up exploitative of its user base in attempts to drive ad revenue.uziq wrote:
a fight he will lose.
they pulled fortnite from the apple store over a similar dispute, a while ago, and forwent billions of dollars of easy revenue in the process. elon musk and his newly assembled army of 120,000 blueticks paying $8/month are not going to trouble apple's balance sheet.
apple are unexpectedly coming to the rescue in the current era. upending the business models of facebook/meta and google/alphabet inc. and, to a lesser extent, twitter, amazon, et al. the era of big data and rampant privacy abuses is coming to an end. time to get a new model, guys.
The idea that you're now too old to enjoy games and hastily avoid the topic is much weirder tbh. Alright, you don't need to dye your hair blue and put on cosplay outfits of your favourite gaming hero or date twitch streamers. The mid to late 20s girls with varicoloured hair who stream LoL professionally in skimpy cosplay probably have a multitude of other issues underlying their, uhm, careers, though.uziq wrote:
i’m at an age where i purposefully demur or turn down relations with ‘gamers’. not a few girls out here on the dating apps have liked my profile, and if i see the usual ‘gamer chair, triple monitor setup’ thing in their pictures, or get the impression they twitch league of legends or something, then i swiftly swipe left. i am way too old to be hanging around with people with varicoloured hair who think wearing gaming merchandise as fashion is okay.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
I'm trapped in a 90s sitcom. Send stereotypical, era-appropriate items.
same thing if games come up in any sort of conversation thesedays. ‘oh yeah, i used to play a few, but not anymore’. i didn’t come out to this bar or coffee shop to discuss CS load outs my guy. people who are overly passionate about this stuff well into middle-age give off a weird smell.
It's the responsibility of local and regional authorities to ensure and maintain physical security. Especially leading up to and during major events. These days social media and geolocation data can help forewarn as well.uziq wrote:
it happened in berlin at love parade. very similar scenario. it’s irrational. at some point a crowd behaves like fluid dynamics. and/or sets like concrete. i saw this happen in real time. heard the screaming.