uziq wrote:the idea of a sterilized, hermetically sealed nation that has 'zero covid' and just needs to police its borders and wipe-down its imports using bleach is a fucking NONSENSE. it's pie-in-the-sky, childish wish fulfilment, 'if only...' stuff.
As an increasing number of countries around the world reopen their international borders, China
is still pursuing its COVID-zero strategy — and the lengthy quarantine process is part of it.
China is building a quarantine facility in Guangzhou with more than 5,000 rooms for overseas travellers
People travelling to some cities in China would have to quarantine twice in two different locations
China is unlikely to give up their COVID-zero strategy before the Winter Olympics in Beijing next yearhttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-31/ … /100574180
nope. the CCP have announced their intentions to reopen after they reach 80% full vaccination. keeping zero covid for the long term is not on anyone’s intentions.
japan pursued a similar strategy in the run up to the olympics. it’s hardly a standard scenario, is it? ‘let’s base our covid strategy on a nation that is nervous about hosting a gigantic world event’. ok! enjoy another 250 days inside melbourne!
i have fucking said REPEATEDLY that pre-flight testing and quarantine measures are likely to remain for the foreseeable future of travel. they will be features of the industry now in the same way that locked cabins and security strip downs were part of the post-9/11 world of air travel. i specifically said that countries will have to form agreements with each other and policies for safe travel, and that travel from covid hotspots to safe countries will probably be highly controlled. i have NEVER ONCE said that people will reopen their borders and allow uncontrolled, untested, oblivious travel. do you even read for fuck’s sake. you have a little cock.
There's several countries in the world now that have 80%+ vaccination rate. Quite a few in the EU. Despite the effort, it's not enough to keep covid at bay. Several are now reimposing restrictions or considering doing so as winter approaches.
It really makes you wonder what the point of it all is in the long term. 80% vaccination is only achievable for very highly developed countries. There will be many countries around the globe that will top out at 30-50%, even if they have unlimited supply. It may also take several years to get to that point globally. Because of issues with infrastructure, dispersed rural populations, low literacy rates, the fact that the jab isn't effective forever and will need to be reapplied etc. Considering that a nearly fully vaccinated population doesn't seem to be enough to deal with covid, it's a foregone conclusion that this pandemic will not end. More mutations may also pop up. We can only hope there won't be one that's more contageous and/or dangerous than delta.
So what will that mean for the next 1, 2 or even 5 to 10 years? I'll assume there's no sudden miracle cure and covid won't inexplicably disappear.
Yes, pre-flight testing and quarantine measures are likely to remain for the foreseeable future. It's likely there will be countries that are permanently semi-blacklisted from travel. It's likely most of the world will remain denoted as 'do not travel' because their healthcare infrastructure/population monitoring/vaccination isn't developed enough for high quality economies to trust them. Workplace restrictions might become either permanent or reconsidered every fall/winter season. Face coverings could be made compulsory on and off. Kids going to school or uni will always have covid dangling over their heads as an argument to restrict them from following in-class education or socialising with friends. Social venues, events, festival & nightlife might just be closed again every few months.
I'll be frank, it's fucking madness. I'm not a healthcare professional or virologist so don't have answers, but at this point it doesn't look like they have any answers either. The zero covid strategies around the globe have failed, and the controlled covid strategies are entering the realm of stupidity. After seeing that 80% vaccination isn't doing it the next 'way out' that's being propagated is for people to not only be vaccinated & QR-checked, but also tested regularly, wearing masks everywhere, social distancing forever, perhaps taking anti-viral medication in the future on top of that. On/off lockdownesque restrictions. And then we'll beat it for sure! All for the sake of mostly keeping geriatrics and retirees from flooding intensive care capacity.
It's folly to believe that the majority of the population will abide by all that shit or think that it is in ANY WAY possible for that sort of convoluted and costly system to be implemented anywhere but the very richest & developed countries. I'll carefully conclude: there is no real way out, and it'll take another year or so, maybe two, for that realisation to set in.