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are people forgetting that MAN wrote the bible? and MAN is fallible. so the bible is literally a man's fictional story. If someone wrote a book nowadys saying that the words were god's words flowing through him, no one would believe him, hes a nut. so genisis cannot be taken seriously
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Flecco wrote:

Prove that there is no deity.


What came before the 'Big Bang'? What was the, to use Aquinas' term for it, 'prime-mover' then?
I'll do you one better. Prove to me there is and I'll renounce everything I've ever said. Good Luck.

Do you believe that time will go on forever (I know what you are going to say. I mean in some form or another)?

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I write it off because I see no reason that this is more significant to evolutionary theory than primates, who are closer relatives according to the theory.  You think it's significant and that's fine.  I don't.  Is that ok?  That doesn't automatically mean I don't leave room for evolution in my beliefs.  I claim no corner on knowledge and wish the rest of you here would do the same.
The point isn't a closer proximity to humans, it's the bridge to the branch in between where older 'ape-like' fossils and ones that look like more modern apes or lemurs that we descended from.



As for the mammoth, just the way your post was worded and the images I simply assumed that's what you were using as an example. In either case you can use my dinosaur bone marrow example. Also, if I had more info on how the dinosaur was found, that could help explain it too. In tar it would have essentially been as perfectly preserved as maybe being 4 days dead. Ice could yield similar results depending on how and how fast it was frozen over. Things like this could very well explain the preservation. The only reason other fossils in rocks aren't preserved like this are because it usually takes a longer time for the rock to form around it as well as the pressure of the rock and the pressure needed to form it.

Oh! Let me ask Christians this. It's a simple proof by reason but tell me if you find an error:

Jesus is god
Jesus was a man
Jesus is god that is man
God is man

Correct?

Also, many of the texts in the Bible (written by man as previously said) were not written in the time of Jesus' life; not to mention by anyone even close to as scholarly as the average stupidest person you'd ever encounter today.
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xBlackPantherx wrote:

Flecco wrote:

Prove that there is no deity.


What came before the 'Big Bang'? What was the, to use Aquinas' term for it, 'prime-mover' then?
I'll do you one better. Prove to me there is and I'll renounce everything I've ever said. Good Luck.

Do you believe that time will go on forever (I know what you are going to say. I mean in some form or another)?
Just pointing out the 'prove it!' 'no you prove it' cycle. There are no conclusive answers available on the topic.
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Uzique wrote:

Ziiiing.

One single book is enough to justify an entire lifestyle of devotion and self-sure narrowminded belief?

lol
No. Not unless one is self-sure and narrowminded to begin with.
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Flecco wrote:

xBlackPantherx wrote:

Flecco wrote:

Prove that there is no deity.


What came before the 'Big Bang'? What was the, to use Aquinas' term for it, 'prime-mover' then?
I'll do you one better. Prove to me there is and I'll renounce everything I've ever said. Good Luck.

Do you believe that time will go on forever (I know what you are going to say. I mean in some form or another)?
Just pointing out the 'prove it!' 'no you prove it' cycle. There are no conclusive answers available on the topic.
Actually, as you may have learned in Geometry back in the day or just recently depending on your age, there's a term called "Proof by Contradiction". Works like this:

You start by assuming the opposite of what needs to be proven; ie. God doesn't/does exist. If the opposite assumption is false, then the original proven is correct (and vice versa). There isn't necessarily proof to prove god doesn't exist, but there's proof of another matter that says, by being true, God can not exist.

Simple example:

Prove - All Cats hate water

All cat's don't hate water. My cat Toby hates the water. Ergo, not all cat's hate water.

FEOS wrote:

Uzique wrote:

Ziiiing.

One single book is enough to justify an entire lifestyle of devotion and self-sure narrowminded belief?

lol
No. Not unless one is self-sure and narrowminded to begin with.
You would be surprised at how many people with whom I've come across where, with their faith of God, comes the answer "because the Bible says so".

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xBlackPantherx wrote:

FEOS wrote:

Uzique wrote:

Ziiiing.

One single book is enough to justify an entire lifestyle of devotion and self-sure narrowminded belief?

lol
No. Not unless one is self-sure and narrowminded to begin with.
You would be surprised at how many people with whom I've come across where, with their faith of God, comes the answer "because the Bible says so".
No, I wouldn't. I know many like that, as well. That doesn't obviate the underlying message...it only points out those individuals' faults.
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