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U.S. telecommunications giant AT&T has claimed that, without investment, the Internet's current network architecture will reach the limits of its capacity by 2010.

Source: http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/null/90339
Source 2 (Detailed Article): http://news.zdnet.com/2100-1035_22-6237715.html

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Speaking at a Westminster eForum on Web 2.0 this week in London, Jim Cicconi, vice president of legislative affairs for AT&T, warned that the current systems that constitute the Internet will not be able to cope with the increasing amounts of video and user-generated content being uploaded.

"The surge in online content is at the center of the most dramatic changes affecting the Internet today," he said. "In three years' time, 20 typical households will generate more traffic than the entire Internet today."

Cicconi, who was speaking at the event as part of a wider series of meetings with U.K. government officials, said that at least $55 billion worth of investment was needed in new infrastructure in the next three years in the U.S. alone, with the figure rising to $130 billion to improve the network worldwide. "We are going to be butting up against the physical capacity of the Internet by 2010," he said.

He claimed that the "unprecedented new wave of broadband traffic" would increase 50-fold by 2015 and that AT&T is investing $19 billion to maintain its network and upgrade its backbone network.

Cicconi added that more demand for high-definition video will put an increasing strain on the Internet infrastructure. "Eight hours of video is loaded onto YouTube every minute. Everything will become HD very soon, and HD is 7 to 10 times more bandwidth-hungry than typical video today. Video will be 80 percent of all traffic by 2010, up from 30 percent today," he said.

The AT&T executive pointed out that the Internet exists, thanks to the infrastructure provided by a group of mostly private companies. "There is nothing magic or ethereal about the Internet--it is no more ethereal than the highway system. It is not created by an act of God, but upgraded and maintained by private investors," he said.

Although Cicconi's speech did not explicitly refer to the term "Net neutrality," some audience members tackled him on the issue in a question-and-answer session, asking whether the subtext of his speech was really around prioritizing some kinds of traffic. Cicconi responded by saying he believed government intervention in the Internet was fundamentally wrong.

"I think people agree why the Internet is successful. My personal view is that government has widely chosen to...keep a light touch and let innovators develop it," he said. "The reason I resist using the term 'Net neutrality' is that I don't think government intervention is the right way to do this kind of thing. I don't think government can anticipate these kinds of technical problems. Right now, I think Net neutrality is a solution in search of a problem."

Net neutrality refers to an ongoing campaign calling for governments to legislate to prevent Internet service providers from charging content providers for prioritization of their traffic. The debate is more heated in the United States than in the United Kingdom because there is less competition between ISPs in the States.

Content creators argue that Net neutrality should be legislated in order to protect consumers and keep all Internet traffic equal. Network operators and service providers argue that the Internet is already unequal, and certain types of traffic--VoIP, for example--require prioritization by default.

"However well-intentioned, regulatory restraints can inefficiently skew investment, delay innovation, and diminish consumer welfare, and there is reason to believe that the kinds of broad marketplace restrictions proposed in the name of 'neutrality' would do just that, with respect to the Internet," the U.S. Department of Justice said in a statement last year.

The BBC has come under fire from service providers such as Tiscali, which claim that its iPlayer online-TV service is becoming a major drain on network bandwidth.

In a recent posting on his BBC blog, Ashley Highfield, the corporation's director of future media and technology, defended the iPlayer: "I would not suggest that ISPs start to try and charge content providers. They are already charging their customers for broadband to receive any content they want."
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SenorToenails
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They'll probably ask for more money to upgrade the infrastructure.

Read this if you wanna get pissed off.
The answer is, the merger of the phone companies that control the phone networks decreased competition. Instead of deploying the high-speed fiber-optic lines they promised, they were content to collect profits, tinker with existing copper connections instead of rewiring, and roll out inferior DSL services. The FCC defines anything above 200 Kbps as broadband (1000 Kbps = 1 Mbps), allowing them to claim that Americans have broadband access. However, this definition is a politically-driven embarrassment for technologists, the equivalent of two tin-cans with string.

Yet—and here is the most troubling part—the phone companies got paid anyway. Through tax breaks and increased service fees, Verizon and the old Bells reaped an estimated $200 billion since the early 1990s to improve subscriber lines in the United States. And what have American consumers received? The most common DSL Service over the old copper networks tops out at 768 Kbps in most areas—a hundred times slower than routine connections in other countries. (There are faster, more expensive versions of DSL, but most have a top speed of 1-3 mbps in one direction, and it varies based on how far a person lives from a network hub.)
Fenris_GreyClaw
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Now I KNOW this was posted before, but Search is busted, so I can forgive you.
Flecco
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Fenris_GreyClaw wrote:

Now I KNOW this was posted before, but Search is busted, so I can forgive you.
Lol Fenris is a nazi.
Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.
N00bkilla55404
Voices are calling...
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Flecco wrote:

Fenris_GreyClaw wrote:

Now I KNOW this was posted before, but Search is busted, so I can forgive you.
Lol Fenris is a nazi.
A nazi would have OP sent to the gas chambers for this, so no.
nukchebi0
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Flecco wrote:

Fenris_GreyClaw wrote:

Now I KNOW this was posted before, but Search is busted, so I can forgive you.
Lol Fenris is a nazi. liberal.
He's going soft.
Fenris_GreyClaw
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Flecco wrote:

Fenris_GreyClaw wrote:

Now I KNOW this was posted before, but Search is busted, so I can forgive you.
Lol Fenris is a nazi.
Hey, it's Ex-Grammar Nazi. Emphasis on both the "Ex" and "Grammar"sections.

Welcome back btw.
Nappy
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i think its a load of shit
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it has been posted before...
it's not an issue at all. people are just trying to make drama...
mikkel
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More moaning from AT&T, one of the companies that profited the most from ripping off the government by making about half of the 200 billion dollar network capacity upgrade subsidy in the Telecommunications Act of 1994 disappear. They've been paid by the US government to upgrade their network, and they managed to siphon off tens of billions of dollars from that, which went right into their own pockets.

This is an operator that despite receiving tens of billions of dollars in subsidy from the US government, much of which it stole, despite having a net profit of $12bn US in '07, and despite crippling users' Internet experience by throttling data on the grounds that "letting people use the full capacity that we advertise would create a need for needless capacity upgrades", still try to garner sympathy by acting surprised that the Internet is growing, and moaning about it being everyone else's fault.

The health of the Internet is fine. The health of American service providers is not. That's why the US has some of the worst infrastructure amongst industrialised nations. It's corrupt to the core, and the consumers are paying for it.

Last edited by mikkel (2008-04-25 23:40:49)

SenorToenails
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mikkel wrote:

More moaning from AT&T, one of the companies that profited the most from ripping off the government by making about half of the 200 billion dollar network capacity upgrade subsidy in the Telecommunications Act of 1994 disappear. They've been paid by the US government to upgrade their network, and they managed to siphon off tens of billions of dollars from that, which went right into their own pockets.

This is an operator that despite receiving tens of billions of dollars in subsidy from the US government, much of which it stole, despite having a net profit of $12bn US in '07, and despite crippling users' Internet experience by throttling data on the grounds that "letting people use the full capacity that we advertise would create a need for needless capacity upgrades", still try to garner sympathy by acting surprised that the Internet is growing, and moaning about it being everyone else's fault.

The health of the Internet is fine. The health of American service providers is not. That's why the US has some of the worst infrastructure amongst industrialised nations. It's corrupt to the core, and the consumers are paying for it.
Bingo!
Mystline
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mikkel wrote:

More moaning from AT&T, one of the companies that profited the most from ripping off the government by making about half of the 200 billion dollar network capacity upgrade subsidy in the Telecommunications Act of 1994 disappear. They've been paid by the US government to upgrade their network, and they managed to siphon off tens of billions of dollars from that, which went right into their own pockets.

This is an operator that despite receiving tens of billions of dollars in subsidy from the US government, much of which it stole, despite having a net profit of $12bn US in '07, and despite crippling users' Internet experience by throttling data on the grounds that "letting people use the full capacity that we advertise would create a need for needless capacity upgrades", still try to garner sympathy by acting surprised that the Internet is growing, and moaning about it being everyone else's fault.

The health of the Internet is fine. The health of American service providers is not. That's why the US has some of the worst infrastructure amongst industrialised nations. It's corrupt to the core, and the consumers are paying for it.
hmmm  you should go talk some sense into them then.
SEREVENT
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What about that grid system, will that relieve traffic, or will it just make it faster?
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"The surge in online content is at the center of the most dramatic changes affecting the Internet today," he said. "In three years' time, 20 typical households will generate more traffic than the entire Internet today."
Ya right.
OrangeHound
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Actually, the AT&T person is right when he talks about the tremendous surge in internet traffic ... it is absolutely going to explode within the next 2-3 years.

However, America has a lot of unused fiber criss-crossing the nation, and the capacity within the United States can be easily accommodated.  I don't know about Europe or transatlantic capacity.
mikkel
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Bf2-GeneralArnott wrote:

What about that grid system, will that relieve traffic, or will it just make it faster?
It won't do a thing. It's a distributed computing platform. The IP transit networks they deploy across longer distances use exactly the same equipment and fibres as the ones that are in use on the Internet today, and the protocols on their private platform are for distributed computing, not for carrying general traffic efficiently.

That whole thing spurred from an article written by a journalist who sensationalised something that wasn't new, and proposed applications that wouldn't be different from how things are done today, although impossible on the platform he was writing about.
Boomerjinks
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Maybe if we reversed the polarity and set off an isolitic burst.... hmmm.

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