theit57
I am THE Frodo Baggins.
+124|6678|6 feet under
So yeah, whats the deal w/ it? is it super good or what? whats so special about it? is it better than windows or what? is it worth downloading or what? anyone wanna explain what it is and its supposed to do? any help would be appreciated. thanks
Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|6986|67.222.138.85
It's an OS, and if you have to be asking those questions, it's probably best that you avoided it.
theit57
I am THE Frodo Baggins.
+124|6678|6 feet under

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

It's an OS, and if you have to be asking those questions, it's probably best that you avoided it.
I'm just curious about it. I know that its a free dlable OS and I know that its supposed to be pretty stable and a competitor w/ microsoft, but thats about it

EDIT: dang that was a fast response nice, i just posted that. i'm impressed

Last edited by theit57 (2007-12-03 20:28:14)

Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|6986|67.222.138.85

theit57 wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

It's an OS, and if you have to be asking those questions, it's probably best that you avoided it.
I'm just curious about it. I know that its a free dlable OS and I know that its supposed to be pretty stable and a competitor w/ microsoft, but thats about it

EDIT: dang that was a fast response nice, i just posted that. i'm impressed
It's an open source OS, which means that basically all the content is user generated.

It's known for being very stable, it now has a very nice GUI quite similar to windows, runs most applications windows does such as Firefox, and has pretty good documentation.

Downsides, there is still a pretty high learning curve, you can seriously fuck up your install if you're doing things in root you don't need to be doing, and it can't run 99% of the games out there.

I set up a SUSE server over the summer and was honestly very impressed at how far along the user interface has come, and if not for the complete lack of game support, would switch over and run at that learning curve head on.
theit57
I am THE Frodo Baggins.
+124|6678|6 feet under

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

theit57 wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

It's an OS, and if you have to be asking those questions, it's probably best that you avoided it.
I'm just curious about it. I know that its a free dlable OS and I know that its supposed to be pretty stable and a competitor w/ microsoft, but thats about it

EDIT: dang that was a fast response nice, i just posted that. i'm impressed
It's an open source OS, which means that basically all the content is user generated.

It's known for being very stable, it now has a very nice GUI quite similar to windows, runs most applications windows does such as Firefox, and has pretty good documentation.

Downsides, there is still a pretty high learning curve, you can seriously fuck up your install if you're doing things in root you don't need to be doing, and it can't run 99% of the games out there.

I set up a SUSE server over the summer and was honestly very impressed at how far along the user interface has come, and if not for the complete lack of game support, would switch over and run at that learning curve head on.
so basically, if you're not really interested in the gaming thing anymore, would it ba a good system to use? also where can I find a list of things that would work w/ linux, for example would AIM work w/ it? thanks for the help
jsnipy
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download a VMWare free player: http://www.vmware.com/download/player/

Download free preinstalled os that run on VMware: http://www.vmware.com/appliances/directory/1068

no risk

Last edited by jsnipy (2007-12-03 21:11:56)

theit57
I am THE Frodo Baggins.
+124|6678|6 feet under

jsnipy wrote:

download a VMWare free player: http://www.vmware.com/download/player/

Download free preinstalled os that run on VMware: http://www.vmware.com/appliances/directory/1068

no risk
so that's the "testers" version i assume?
jsnipy
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No its full blown and usable, graphical interface and all.

Last edited by jsnipy (2007-12-03 21:19:44)

blademaster
I'm moving to Brazil
+2,075|6925
just download Microsoft Virtual PC 2007

then look for a Linux ISO depending on which Linux version you are looking to install.
jsnipy
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+3,277|6802|...

blademaster wrote:

just download Microsoft Virtual PC 2007

then look for a Linux ISO depending on which Linux version you are looking to install.
VMWare is just like it. Virtual PC is garbage, not just in my opinion, but from my experience.

Also the virtual appliances are already built, no installation. Perfect for someone who asking what linux is as a question.

Last edited by jsnipy (2007-12-03 21:22:52)

theit57
I am THE Frodo Baggins.
+124|6678|6 feet under

jsnipy wrote:

blademaster wrote:

just download Microsoft Virtual PC 2007

then look for a Linux ISO depending on which Linux version you are looking to install.
VMWare is just like it. Virtual PC is garbage, not just in my opinion, but from my experience.

Also the virtual appliances are already built, no installation.
so both of those are the full blown installation of Linux, or are those supposed to be improved versions of Linux?
jsnipy
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+3,277|6802|...

VMWare and Virtual PC are just virtualization software on which you can practically install anything. Like running a pc inside of a pc.

The difference in what is being suggested is that you go and find the ISO image and install yourself versus downloading it prebuilt and using it with VMWare. If you have ever installed an OS or want to try the Virtual PC route gives you more flexibility. I also think you could convert the VMWare virtual hard drives into Virtual PC hard drives. Despite opinions, what you get for free form MS is better than what you get for free from VMWare.

Last edited by jsnipy (2007-12-03 21:30:06)

theit57
I am THE Frodo Baggins.
+124|6678|6 feet under

jsnipy wrote:

VMWare and Virtual PC are just virtualization software on which you can practically install anything. Like running a pc inside of a pc.

The difference in what is being suggested is that you go and find the iso and install yourself or downloading it prebuilt.
so basically its knida an improved version w/ allows for more user programs, like the ones you would install on windows, but with the Linux OS?
jsnipy
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+3,277|6802|...

Actually the Ubuntu link I gave you would have all the same stuff more or less if you did your own install of it.

Ubuntu is a particular distribution.

There is no such thing as "Linux" just as there is no such thing as a "car". Linux has distributions, which essentially are a set of bundled features and programs.

Last edited by jsnipy (2007-12-03 21:34:20)

{M5}Sniper3
Typical white person.
+389|7039|San Antonio, Texas
I've used Linux (Fedora) with Virtual PC, and let me tell you, I was not impressed. I see the potential for an OS like Linux/Unix, for servers, but not for everyday use.
theit57
I am THE Frodo Baggins.
+124|6678|6 feet under

jsnipy wrote:

Actually the Unbuntu link I gave you would have all the same stuff more or less if you did your own install of it. There is no such thing as "Linux" just there is no such thing as a car. Linux has distributions, which essentially are a set of bundled features and programs.
ah, so basically its a base set and then people edit it and add and subtract to it and make it more or less a final product?
jsnipy
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theit57 wrote:

jsnipy wrote:

Actually the Unbuntu link I gave you would have all the same stuff more or less if you did your own install of it. There is no such thing as "Linux" just there is no such thing as a car. Linux has distributions, which essentially are a set of bundled features and programs.
ah, so basically its a base set and then people edit it and add and subtract to it and make it more or less a final product?
pretty much, yep
theit57
I am THE Frodo Baggins.
+124|6678|6 feet under

jsnipy wrote:

theit57 wrote:

jsnipy wrote:

Actually the Unbuntu link I gave you would have all the same stuff more or less if you did your own install of it. There is no such thing as "Linux" just there is no such thing as a car. Linux has distributions, which essentially are a set of bundled features and programs.
ah, so basically its a base set and then people edit it and add and subtract to it and make it more or less a final product?
pretty much, yep
so, then, which final product would you recomend?
Morpheus
This shit still going?
+508|6279|The Mitten
Ubuntu advertises itself as one of the easiest to use; it's what I've got on my second computer. The newest release(7.10) is pretty good, very similar GUI to windows. It comes with all the basic programs, such as Firefox and Pidgin (IM client)...

Just don't get the Server edition, unless you want to install the GUI yourself.

And like Flaming_Maniac said, don't mess around in root, and it won't natively run most games.
EE (hats
jsnipy
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+3,277|6802|...

theit57 wrote:

jsnipy wrote:

theit57 wrote:

ah, so basically its a base set and then people edit it and add and subtract to it and make it more or less a final product?
pretty much, yep
so, then, which final product would you recomend?
Just hit those two links i first posted, thats the VMWare player and Ubuntu desktop. It takes practically no effort  to set up.

Morpheus1229 wrote:

And like Flaming_Maniac said, don't mess around in root, and it won't natively run most games.
Root is like the admin account in windows, but with more damning consequences if you go grabassing in the wrong places.

Last edited by jsnipy (2007-12-03 22:12:59)

theit57
I am THE Frodo Baggins.
+124|6678|6 feet under
so what about programs like word, AIM, Powerpoint, and some other important ones that are commonly used in daily use?
jsnipy
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+3,277|6802|...

theit57 wrote:

so what about programs like word, AIM, Powerpoint, and some other important ones that are commonly used in daily use?
You won't find word, but you may find open office on there. There is a program call pidgin (used to be called GAIM) that can connect to any popular instant messaging network. Once you get in there you will see something very similar to the Start menu in windows. From there you will see what is installed.

Last edited by jsnipy (2007-12-03 22:41:30)

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