KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
+2,991|7067|949

The New York Archdiocese of the Roman Catholic church has an unusual new weapon against child abuse.

After years of humiliating sexual-abuse scandals, Roman Catholic Church officials are trying harder than ever to convince parishioners that they're doing everything they can to prevent such tragedies from happening again. That means public education, training programs and—in the New York Archdiocese—a surprisingly direct, abuse-themed coloring book for kids that's being sent to parishioners across the area. At first glance, "Being Friends, Being Safe, Being Catholic" is what you'd expect from a Christian handout: lessons in loving thy neighbor and knowing we're all special in God's eyes, plus a fun word search with names of people whom kids can trust (parents, counselors, teachers)...But on one page, the angel warns of an online predator—with chest hair exposed—who attempts to chat with a child; on another (shown above), the angel implies that children should make sure they're never alone in a room with a priest.
https://i18.tinypic.com/85u6yhk.jpg

http://www.newsweek.com/id/73270

Feel free to print out the picture, color and post.

Personally, I don't see this idea as inherently bad.  However, I believe that the Catholic Church in general and more importantly the Catholic Church in the United States needs to implement far greater guidelines and programs for up and coming Priests.  Perhaps it is time for the Church to look at the rules and regulations in joining the seminary and joining the priesthood.  I know I read some time ago that enrollment rates are way down for seminary - I know the church my mother is a part of largely imports Vietnamese, Filipino and Hispanic priests as a result.  Do you people (and especially the Catholics on this board) feel that it is time to create a new set of rules for priesthood, including possibly removing the vow of celibacy?

Last edited by KEN-JENNINGS (2007-12-02 17:16:43)

Hurricane
Banned
+1,153|7065|Washington, DC

That flying angel is hot

edit: If removing the vow of celibacy keeps em from touching little kids, go for it.

Last edited by Hurricane (2007-12-02 17:17:22)

konfusion
mostly afk
+480|6985|CH/BR - in UK

You would have thought that they'd do this through subliminal messaging, and not something so blunt and obvious... funny...
Weird...

-konfusion
Reciprocity
Member
+721|7016|the dank(super) side of Oregon
yeah, because it's not priests you have to worry about, it's everyone.  let's freak out kids and make them think all adults want to fuck them, and not just sexually repressed pedophilic spiritual leaders.
Doctor Strangelove
Real Battlefield Veterinarian.
+1,758|6903
The weirdest thing about the scandal is how it actually was on a very small scale. The incidents reported ranged from about 1947-2004, however there only a little over 2,000 incidents reported. And also factor in the people who claimed to be harassed so that they could get a cut of the cash, and the size of the scandal seems very small. However teachers, camp consolers et cetera get way less media attention than the priests, which is equally disgusting as what those few priests were doing.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6840|North Carolina

Hurricane wrote:

That flying angel is hot

edit: If removing the vow of celibacy keeps em from touching little kids, go for it.
Bingo.  Allow priests to marry, and the problem is solved.

Everybody needs sex, including priests.  To pretend like faith is going to somehow make you completely devoid of libido is just fucking stupid (no pun intended).

Last edited by Turquoise (2007-12-02 18:53:39)

Reciprocity
Member
+721|7016|the dank(super) side of Oregon
do you guys know why celibacy vows were instated for the catholic?  it's not a religious thing, jesus never told peter that fucking was bad.  it's because in the middle ages when the catholic church was becoming the most powerful entity in the western world, the widows of dead catholic clergy were claiming that the vast properties their late husbands managed were their inheritance.  so to preserve their power and holding, the catholic church outlawed marriage and forced vows of celibacy.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6840|North Carolina
You are correct.  This helps outline why the rule is both outdated and corrupt.
S.Lythberg
Mastermind
+429|6882|Chicago, IL
Im not really religious anymore, but this is just one of the many reasons why i preferred the Lutheran church, our preacher had a wife and kids, and the whole problem was avoided, (in fact, i've never heard a single story of this type from a liberal church)
Reciprocity
Member
+721|7016|the dank(super) side of Oregon
does the lifestyle lead to pedophelia or does pedophelia lead to the lifestyle?
David.P
Banned
+649|6709

Reciprocity wrote:

does the lifestyle lead to pedophelia or does pedophelia lead to the lifestyle?
Mostly it's homosexual young men who become priests in order to give a reason to their parents why they dont like girls. Why do you think in most protestant churches they dont have this problem?
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6840|North Carolina

David.P wrote:

Reciprocity wrote:

does the lifestyle lead to pedophelia or does pedophelia lead to the lifestyle?
Mostly it's homosexual young men who become priests in order to give a reason to their parents why they dont like girls. Why do you think in most protestant churches they dont have this problem?
This is one of the rare moments where I'd agree with you.  Any occupation that leads to a lot of contact with children must deal with pedophiles.  It can be anything from an ice cream truck driver to a schoolteacher.  Unfortunately, this is just the nature of reality.

It's not really the fault of the church that pedophiles seek out things like the priesthood, but they could certainly lessen the pedophile ratio by allowing these men to marry.  Then, they'd attract more men in general -- most of whom would not be pedophiles.
S.Lythberg
Mastermind
+429|6882|Chicago, IL

Turquoise wrote:

David.P wrote:

Reciprocity wrote:

does the lifestyle lead to pedophelia or does pedophelia lead to the lifestyle?
Mostly it's homosexual young men who become priests in order to give a reason to their parents why they dont like girls. Why do you think in most protestant churches they dont have this problem?
This is one of the rare moments where I'd agree with you.  Any occupation that leads to a lot of contact with children must deal with pedophiles.  It can be anything from an ice cream truck driver to a schoolteacher.  Unfortunately, this is just the nature of reality.

It's not really the fault of the church that pedophiles seek out things like the priesthood, but they could certainly lessen the pedophile ratio by allowing these men to marry.  Then, they'd attract more men in general -- most of whom would not be pedophiles.
David + Turquoise = Agreement?

Impossible!  Sign of the apocalypse!

But David does have a good point, and one that I've never really thought about before.  It's just difficult for me to imagine that a homosexual would preach a religion that condemns homosexuals...

but then again, we have anti-gay senators coming on to undercover officers in men's bathrooms, so nothing would surprise me...
David.P
Banned
+649|6709
@ Turq and Lyth

I've been saying it all along and only now people have listened to me. I know alot about the homosexual mindset. Most people who are homosexuals at a young age grow up to be pedo's if two things happen to be.  A family that condemns gays, and Repression of it for a long time. Sometimes they act out and touch other children their age both male and female, But mostly of the same sex.


Btw i know because this sick fuck decided to touch me in the fucken lunch line 10 years ago. And later i found out he was suppressing it for a long time because of his parents.

Last edited by David.P (2007-12-02 21:34:06)

Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6840|North Carolina

David.P wrote:

@ Turq and Lyth

I've been saying it all along and only now people have listened to me. I know alot about the homosexual mindset. Most people who are homosexuals at a young age grow up to be pedo's if two things happen to be.  A family that condemns gays, and Repression of it for a long time. Sometimes they act out and touch other children their age both male and female, But mostly of the same sex.


Btw i know because this sick fuck decided to touch me in the fucken lunch line 10 years ago. And later i found out he was suppressing it for a long time because of his parents.
Then perhaps, you'd support the notion of making society more tolerant of gay people so that no repression is necessary in the first place, and very little child touching will continue.  Many people who succumb to pedophilia aren't necessarily hopeless.  Basically, if we can steer troubled people in the right direction, they won't ever even subject an innocent child to their sickness, because they eventually can overcome such vices.

Note, however, that pedophilia and homosexuality are not one and the same.  I believe you're confusing the two in some ways.  A normal gay person isn't attracted to kids anymore than a normal straight person.
David.P
Banned
+649|6709
No. They can go fuck themselves.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6840|North Carolina

David.P wrote:

No. They can go fuck themselves.
So, you'd rather have a society that represses homosexuality, even if it means that it increases the likelihood that others will have to go through what you did?
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,072|7207|PNW

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

https://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y76/unnamednewbie13/ctimmyandthepriest.jpg
"Sorry, Timmy! God sent Wanda to keep me company now." Either that or Charlie's Angels have been sent on a killing spree.

I r wni te coluring contest!!!!!!

GuliblGuy wrote:

Yeah the whole celibate thing has roots in somethin' that doesn't need to be used anymore.  Let them have a family!
The Mexicans just do it anyway.

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2007-12-03 19:29:48)

GuliblGuy
Zulu son, what!?!
+79|7220|Anaheim, CA

Yeah the whole celibate thing has roots in somethin' that doesn't need to be used anymore.  Let them have a family!
<SharpShot>
chronic gamer
+17|6755|Canadia

Hurricane wrote:

That flying angel is hot
blasphemy to hell with you
David.P
Banned
+649|6709

Turquoise wrote:

David.P wrote:

No. They can go fuck themselves.
So, you'd rather have a society that represses homosexuality, even if it means that it increases the likelihood that others will have to go through what you did?
I'd rather have a society that does'nt give homosexuality the protected minority status so they cant get away with doing that shit anymore. In other words be gay we dont care your life is your own, But dont flaunt yourself infront of others, And dont force yourself on others. So no dont repress homosexuality just repress the extremisms of it that lead to this.
DesertFox-
The very model of a modern major general
+796|7120|United States of America
Who else wants to actually color it just as long as we have the comic?
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,072|7207|PNW

DesertFox- wrote:

Who else wants to actually color it just as long as we have the comic?
Might frighten people. That guy's hand makes it look like the kid's getting ready for a prostate exam.

*stretch...SNAP*

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2007-12-03 19:31:19)

DesertFox-
The very model of a modern major general
+796|7120|United States of America
Hell MS Paint and the bucket doesn't work even though the lines are all defined. I got splotchy splashes of color. Shame on you, NY Archdiocese!
Locoloki
I got Mug 222 at Gritty's!!!!
+216|7075|Your moms bedroom
https://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa284/Coryfales/insertremarkhere.jpg

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