kylef
Gone
+1,352|6516|N. Ireland
Penryn uses less power under maximum load than Conroe does at idle.
That is pretty amazing, actually. Prices better be good though Although they have been in the past!
ghettoperson
Member
+1,943|6672

AMD are screwed.
¦TØP¦straz_mataz
Member
+49|6207
i must get a penryn and a 9800 gtx
Jenspm
penis
+1,716|6755|St. Andrews / Oslo

oh gawd.
https://static.bf2s.com/files/user/26774/flickricon.png https://twitter.com/phoenix/favicon.ico
=Karma-Kills=
"Don't post while intoxicated."
+356|6607|England
Penryn + G92 (PCIe 2) + DDR3 = orgasm in 3D mark.

Think its funny how AMD have had months to make a comeback, and im hearing that Phenom X4 is only slightly faster than Core 2 Quad. They're barely able to keep with Intel's current products, let alone their future ones.

Last edited by =Karma-Kills= (2007-08-08 13:50:04)

Bernadictus
Moderator
+1,055|6760

=Karma-Kills= wrote:

Penryn + G92 (PCIe 2) + DDR3 = orgasm in 3D mark.

Think its funny how AMD have had months to make a comeback, and im hearing that Phenom X4 is only slightly faster than Core 2 Quad. They're barely able to keep with Intel's current products, let alone their future ones.
Core 2 Quad? You mean the Xeon Quad, or did I miss something.
Jenspm
penis
+1,716|6755|St. Andrews / Oslo

Bernadictus wrote:

=Karma-Kills= wrote:

Penryn + G92 (PCIe 2) + DDR3 = orgasm in 3D mark.

Think its funny how AMD have had months to make a comeback, and im hearing that Phenom X4 is only slightly faster than Core 2 Quad. They're barely able to keep with Intel's current products, let alone their future ones.
Core 2 Quad? You mean the Xeon Quad, or did I miss something.
There are some CPUs called Core 2 Quad...
https://static.bf2s.com/files/user/26774/flickricon.png https://twitter.com/phoenix/favicon.ico
Bernadictus
Moderator
+1,055|6760

Jenspm wrote:

Bernadictus wrote:

=Karma-Kills= wrote:

Penryn + G92 (PCIe 2) + DDR3 = orgasm in 3D mark.

Think its funny how AMD have had months to make a comeback, and im hearing that Phenom X4 is only slightly faster than Core 2 Quad. They're barely able to keep with Intel's current products, let alone their future ones.
Core 2 Quad? You mean the Xeon Quad, or did I miss something.
There are some CPUs called Core 2 Quad...
I thought Core 2 was : Duo & Extreme.
=Karma-Kills=
"Don't post while intoxicated."
+356|6607|England
Errr, hear of a Q6600

Core 2 Solo,
Core 2 Duo,
Core 2 Quad,
Core 2 Extreme.

Clicky!

Thats the desktop range (plus some old pentium Ds).

Xeon is the server range.

Last edited by =Karma-Kills= (2007-08-08 14:19:35)

Winston_Churchill
Bazinga!
+521|6762|Toronto | Canada

Bernadictus wrote:

Jenspm wrote:

Bernadictus wrote:


Core 2 Quad? You mean the Xeon Quad, or did I miss something.
There are some CPUs called Core 2 Quad...
I thought Core 2 was : Duo & Extreme.
Core 2 Duo, Quad, and Extreme
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Core_2_Quad
CrazeD
Member
+368|6696|Maine

=Karma-Kills= wrote:

Penryn + G92 (PCIe 2) + DDR3 = orgasm in 3D mark.

Think its funny how AMD have had months to make a comeback, and im hearing that Phenom X4 is only slightly faster than Core 2 Quad. They're barely able to keep with Intel's current products, let alone their future ones.
I firmly believe it's because they bought ATi. It was a smart move, but bad timing. They have no wheres near the same amount of funds for R&D that Intel does.

It's sort of disappointing...the king of gaming is slipping away to non-existent. Same with ATi. They've held the battlefield for a long time now, and they're starting to lose their footing.

Oh well, maybe AMD will surprise us and kick Intel in the ass.
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,053|6794|PNW

Maybe I'm having a brainfart, but isn't Penryn the sequel to Merom? I thought the desktop equivalent was Wolfdale. I guess we can blame sources such as vr-zone and theinquirer for latching onto names early on.

As for Core 2 Quad, I agree that it's a misnomer. Looking at it as an outsider, you'd figure it was an 8-core CPU solution, via multiplication...

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2007-08-08 15:54:02)

kylef
Gone
+1,352|6516|N. Ireland

=Karma-Kills= wrote:

Core 2 Solo,
It's actually just 'Core Solo' in that case heh
Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6220|Winland

Conroe clock for clock for most unoptimised applications
Uptimized!!!! ARGH!

If the Penryn cora can perform as good as they say it will, prices on C2D will drop. By a lot. Yayz fo me!

Last edited by Freezer7Pro (2007-08-08 16:08:46)

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
Scorpion0x17
can detect anyone's visible post count...
+691|6789|Cambridge (UK)

Freezer7Pro wrote:

Conroe clock for clock for most unoptimised applications
Uptimized!!!! ARGH!
Optimised!!!!!!!!

Bloody Americans.
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,053|6794|PNW

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

Conroe clock for clock for most unoptimised applications
Uptimized!!!! ARGH!
Optimised!!!!!!!!

Bloody Americans.
Yes...may I once again suggest to fellow 'Grammar Nazis' to check their dictionaries for alternate spelling before attempting to correct?
=Karma-Kills=
"Don't post while intoxicated."
+356|6607|England

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Maybe I'm having a brainfart, but isn't Penryn the sequel to Merom? I thought the desktop equivalent was Wolfdale. I guess we can blame sources such as vr-zone and theinquirer for latching onto names early on.

As for Core 2 Quad, I agree that it's a misnomer. Looking at it as an outsider, you'd figure it was an 8-core CPU solution, via multiplication...
No, you are very right. But i think its the same in that Core was originally designed for notebooks. But year, desktop Penyrn = Wolfdale.

leetkyle wrote:

=Karma-Kills= wrote:

Core 2 Solo,
It's actually just 'Core Solo' in that case heh
Potato, potato.

Oh wait, that doesnt work over the internet.

Anyways, is Core Solo just for notebooks?
Havok
Nymphomaniac Treatment Specialist
+302|6698|Florida, United States

Will Penryn use the LGA 775 port like C2D processors do, or will I need a new mobo?  And that brings me to another question; the G92 chips use PCI-E 2.0, right?  Will that also require a new mobo?
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,053|6794|PNW

=Karma-Kills= wrote:

Anyways, is Core Solo just for notebooks?
For some reason, that reminds me of an old knock-down, drag-out verbal confrontation I had with a technologically-challenged buddy who insisted on buying an inferior product because he "did not need anything too powerful." Ironically, his component decision cost more money than better performance would have, due to pricing and availability. He was too proud to admit that I was right. Another common argument I have is with people who absolutely refuse to get a DVD drive with their PC, despite the fact that they cost the same as CD drives, and are in some cases even cheaper.

It boggles the mind.

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2007-08-08 16:35:54)

=Karma-Kills=
"Don't post while intoxicated."
+356|6607|England

Havok wrote:

Will Penryn use the LGA 775 port like C2D processors do, or will I need a new mobo?  And that brings me to another question; the G92 chips use PCI-E 2.0, right?  Will that also require a new mobo?
***THIS IS PURE GUESTIMATION FROM ME***

Im pretty sure Penryn is LGA 775, but not all LGA 775 mobos will be compatible, depends on the chipset (e.g. my mobo has a Pentium D in atm, so is LGA 775, but does not support Core 2).

G92 is PCIe 2, yes. But wasnt there talk of backwards compatibility...? ie running G92 at PCIe 1 speeds?

Please note im tired and this may be me sleep typing... get cryle in here to check.
Havok
Nymphomaniac Treatment Specialist
+302|6698|Florida, United States

=Karma-Kills= wrote:

Havok wrote:

Will Penryn use the LGA 775 port like C2D processors do, or will I need a new mobo?  And that brings me to another question; the G92 chips use PCI-E 2.0, right?  Will that also require a new mobo?
***THIS IS PURE GUESTIMATION FROM ME***

Im pretty sure Penryn is LGA 775, but not all LGA 775 mobos will be compatible, depends on the chipset (e.g. my mobo has a Pentium D in atm, so is LGA 775, but does not support Core 2).

G92 is PCIe 2, yes. But wasnt there talk of backwards compatibility...? ie running G92 at PCIe 1 speeds?

Please note im tired and this may be me sleep typing... get cryle in here to check.
Well my mobo is a 680i so I think I should be fine if your guestimation is correct.  I hope the G92 is backwards compatible because I just got this new comp and I don't want it to be un-upgradable so soon.
Cheez
Herman is a warmaphrodite
+1,027|6462|King Of The Islands

=Karma-Kills= wrote:

G92 is PCIe 2, yes. But wasnt there talk of backwards compatibility...? ie running G92 at PCIe 1 speeds?
Bit of confucious there.

My understanding was with backward compatibility, you could plug PCIe1 cards into PCIe2, not the other way round.
My state was founded by Batman. Your opinion is invalid.
ReDevilJR
Member
+106|6374

Havok wrote:

=Karma-Kills= wrote:

Havok wrote:

Will Penryn use the LGA 775 port like C2D processors do, or will I need a new mobo?  And that brings me to another question; the G92 chips use PCI-E 2.0, right?  Will that also require a new mobo?
***THIS IS PURE GUESTIMATION FROM ME***

Im pretty sure Penryn is LGA 775, but not all LGA 775 mobos will be compatible, depends on the chipset (e.g. my mobo has a Pentium D in atm, so is LGA 775, but does not support Core 2).

G92 is PCIe 2, yes. But wasnt there talk of backwards compatibility...? ie running G92 at PCIe 1 speeds?

Please note im tired and this may be me sleep typing... get cryle in here to check.
Well my mobo is a 680i so I think I should be fine if your guestimation is correct.  I hope the G92 is backwards compatible because I just got this new comp and I don't want it to be un-upgradable so soon.
P-35 Boards are compatible with the 45 nm processors. Along with DDR3 compatible on certain ones, To give the extra frequency to the processors.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6813128048

Is the G92 going to be on a different interface or something? (In other words, It's NOT going to be PCI-E?)
Havok
Nymphomaniac Treatment Specialist
+302|6698|Florida, United States

Cheez wrote:

=Karma-Kills= wrote:

G92 is PCIe 2, yes. But wasnt there talk of backwards compatibility...? ie running G92 at PCIe 1 speeds?
Bit of confucious there.

My understanding was with backward compatibility, you could plug PCIe1 cards into PCIe2, not the other way round.
Oh damn... he's right.

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