BF2S Forums Cut the Elitist Bullcrap.

I agree 100%. +1

Good players don't bitch about others' tactics, short of cheating/glitching. Bitching is the hallmark of mediocre players.

i call hacks

Fine then, everyone into a K&P only server.

amen.

Best. Post. Ever.

The mentalitiy of most players is that if it kills you, and you cant use it in return, its cheap.

Engineers are the most useful kit on Great Wall. Line the dark roads with AT mines and you get loads of kills. For 3 rounds (and 3 rounds after the next map) solid I broke 100 every time using AT mines and flag capping. Better than the medic anyday

And I got called a "nap" (wtf..?) cause I was using a HIND on Mass Destruction last night. Its a vehicles server ffs, what am I supposed to do, leave it for the enemy?

G36e noob


I do agree with you though

I've played some woeful rounds and been pilloried about some of my noobish tactics.

Water off a ducks back, I say - who gives a shit what anybody except your squad leader says? Just go out and kill and have fun.

The same people who drop crap on you in one round will be fighting alongside you in 3 rounds and will be wanting you to med them up.

Whoo, cut down.
You surprised me with that "stumble through your support example" comment, especially since it's all but impossible for anyone to label everything people seem to complain about or accuse others of. Also I don't remember any recent contribution on my part to nag people into useful roles, although I do seem to remember doing so in the past, back in mid 2006 when I was a keen BF2 player.

I admit, I don't play BF2 as much as the more avid fans do, judging by my two accounts I have only spent 312 hours since August 2nd 2005. Not much considering most people have many many more hours in less than my nearly two year Battlefield 'career'. However I do in fact know why I write this now, you see a good friend of mine who owns a terrible computer as most University students here do which cannot run BF2 often comes over to have a few rounds. He's not brillient at the game, he makes a few clumsy kills each round and dies a frustratingly large amount of times. However the other day when he came around I found myself disgusted that some faceless induvidual with a silver bar for a rank symbol decided to repeatedly flame my friend for killing him once with one of the few unlocks he has, the G36E. I should also add that this was one of three kills my friend made for the entire match.

This, as you all know, is not an isolated incident, in fact I find the matter increasing it's dominance. As a Bf2s.com Moderator I find myself being able to keep up with the game dispite taking a backwards step in playing it. I know and accept that there are differences giving some classes, some weapons, some veichles certain advantages. I know that some are more powerful than others I accept that there are certain imbalances. However I like playing games, I have fun when I do so. I'm an average-to-poor player who gets killed a lot, some of the time I do a bit of killing. I've played the Battlefield series since the 1942 Wake Island demo and I have had fun doing so. Why can't others simply have fun instead of berating others because they lacked the ability to avoid being killed? A game looses it's 'fun' quality if you are berated for everything you do. Hell if everyone was to comply with this 'elitist' point of view it would loose most, if not all it's quality.

My interests are in keeping the fun aspects of computer gaming alive. One thing I like most about computer gaming is the fact that one is not restricted by boundaries. Of course there are some 'codes of conduct' in this game, no needless teamkilling being one example, however now there is an ever growing list of things one can be berated for. Bunnyhopping, dolphin diving, C4 Ramming, (Jihad Jeeping anyone?), 'nade spamming, tank-whoring, uncap-raping, being a J10 whore, G36E noob, noob-tubing, (possibly addressed,) medic-whoring and the list simply goes on and is continuing to expand. I know this not from experience but from being an ever-present argumentitive annoyance on this site, and dispite my own interests in the game declining, I still want to keep it fun if for, if not all you people, than my mate with the shitty computer.

Anyone with half a brain only looks down on somewhat skilled players who rely on a g36e.

they're not whining about the game, they're whining to fit in. In case you hadn't noticed, there has been a lot of complaining in BF2. To keep this simple: those that were once rolling on the floor crying about the blackhawk are now whining about the G36e. Even those that started playing after the initial wave of nerfs - it's the same thing. In reality it's about social aspects, not the gameplay.

Besides, ANY differences leads to hordes of idiots filling peoples heads with bullshit about balance. Example: team fortress classic. The Heavy Weapons guy got introduced. he had a devastating minigun, masses of health, and was very slow. It was the closest the internet ever got to exploding due to the overload of people crying about balance. "I CAN'T KILL HIM!!!!!11" Nowadays, nobody whines about it anymore. Why? because they realised, after a long long time, that they were simply too set in their own beliefs to be able to see something for what it is. it's a slow retard with a massive gun. Shoot a rocket launcher at it and it's dead. it only took them months to figure out that trying to take said heavy weapons guy out with an SMG just wasnt going to happen.

You simply cannot listen to the mindless masses that want it their way, and their way only. Case in point: BF2. Look at counter strike. Whining? oh yes. nerfing? nope. has lasted for a decade? yes.

Agreed Ty, way too much bitching about this stuff on the forums.

Like most things I think its just the vocal few that cant just play the game for fun...

If GOD had a forum they would be on there bitchin about how "That noobs life padding cuz he has 1337 family money, or a certain wicked gene"

You just have to not let it get to you. I occasionally get called a G36E noob, a spawnraping fag, a sniper fag, the rare hackusation. I don't give a damn! If my G36E is killing you, then good. If it's annoying you too, then all the better; if you're bitching about someone else then you're distracted and not playing your best.

If you're mad about me sitting on top of Karkand hill at the USMC spawn with an RPK, kill me! I'm not some invincible hacker, I'm just as susceptible to dying as you are. Take a 'bitter victory' and use the G36E if you must. Better than constantly dying to some kid who took advantage of a shitty team, oh elite chosen one.

Snipers are fags eh? Yeah, we looooove watching the other guys take showers from long-range with our scopes. Please. Yeah, a lot of snipers are douchebags who stick with their squad way too close and try to be good at CQB even though anyone with half a brain rapes snipers CQC. Yeah, a lot of snipers are cocky kids who try to perform some type of psychological warfare on you. Yeah, some snipers even get hacks because they try to make up for a small penis size with shiny ranks. But not all snipers are like that. I myself like sniping because it can be relaxing at times, and at other times pretty intense (I hate those river battles on Karkand where the guys are JUST at the limit of the fog, and they keep sniping you... damned fog). It's fun to strike some fear into a guy by dropping him to 2 bars of health in a flash. It's fun to headshot people.

As for the other kits, let's see. Support is NOT super-accurate, you just suck and need to learn how to aim. It's a good class, yes, but it's not the end-all of everyone else. An equalizer to the medic class perhaps? I love my SAW, RPK, and MG36 (and HK21). Spec Ops is another brilliant class. The days of C4 chucking are long gone and anyone who still bitches about that either has two stripes next to their name or has 3 stars and a .7 KDR. The M4 is a great gun, not the best but still great. The class takes skill to use effectively. Assault? I hate them, but that's just because I die to them a lot. Noob-tubing aside, it's another relatively hard class to play. Engineer is hard, we all know that. Anti-tank is probably the biggest bitch of them all. If you use the DAO-12, you're a noob. If you use the rockets, you're a noob. Bah. Their main guns are pretty shitty, and the SRAW isn't that big a problem. If you use your head, they should be dead before they can get close enough to SRAW you. It IS annoying getting the SRAW of Death, but whatever. At the end of the day, it's just another death tallied on to my KDR which won't matter in a few years when EA pulls the plug on the stats.

So yeah. Just don't let people's remarks get to you; they're only wasting their time and their team's time.