BF2S Forums [Iraq War] The Good the Bad and the Sadr

im sorry but this really adds to the effect here

http://killinfidel.ytmnd.com/

PS Sadr is worse than saddam

Last edited by GunSlinger OIF II (2007-05-09 20:28:11)

Since nobody wanted to do their homework assignment...lol
I'll add to this.

Iraqi bill demands U.S. troops withdraw
BAGHDAD - A majority of Iraqi lawmakers have endorsed a bill calling for a timetable for the withdrawal of foreign troops and demanding a freeze on the number of foreign troops already in the country, lawmakers said Thursday.

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

Since nobody wanted to do their homework assignment...lol
I'll add to this.

Iraqi bill demands U.S. troops withdraw
BAGHDAD - A majority of Iraqi lawmakers have endorsed a bill calling for a timetable for the withdrawal of foreign troops and demanding a freeze on the number of foreign troops already in the country, lawmakers said Thursday.

tell you the truth, if thats what the iraqi people want democratically then i would say victory has been accomplished.

The victory will be accomplished (in the eyes of the Administration) when a US friendly head of state is in power.  Until then, expect the string-pullers to do everything they can to stay in country (unless this 'War' becomes even more political than it is).

From what I see, the last 6 years has shown that we (our government and the people who decide policy) need a much better foreign policy.  No more backroom weapons/finance deals.

As far as your OP, I have a very cynical view -

"The Good" - 4 years after invasion and politicians are happy they are going to get a straight story now?  That is no good news to me.  Everything about this war was weak.  The evidence was weak, the arguments given to the public were weak, the actual invasion itself was weak.  And now we have weak politics still running the war.  Not good in my opinion.

"The Bad" - Yeah, the Emerald City.  We sure have accomplished a lot there, seeing as we can't even secure A PART of Baghdad.  4 years of fighting and we can't even be sure about a 4 mile square area?  By the way, how is the occupation in Afghanistan going?  Have we even been able to secure more than Kabul?  Cheers to the hawks in Government (I'm looking at you Wolfowitz, Bremer, Rummy) who advocated a plan for Iraq without fully grasping the tribal and factional loyalties.

"The Sadr" - Gotta love the evil picture of Sadr.  There are two things that pique my curiosity regarding Sadr's latest move: on one hand, you have to wonder if he really is interested in opening diplomatic dialogue focusing on unification; on the other hand, is this simply a power-grab move to give his movement more legitimacy?  Only time will tell, but I feel we should deal with him cautiously (personally I think it is a power ploy to get in good with the US Government so they will support him as the next head of state in Iraq).

Last edited by KEN-JENNINGS (2007-05-10 10:33:10)

LOL. Sadr looks like something out of a Star Wars movie!!!

CameronPoe wrote:

LOL. Sadr looks like something out of a Star Wars movie!!!

That's just what I was thinking lol, imagine if he had real bad asthma.

You decide
http://www.desktopextreme.com/photos/St … 9PM311.jpg

http://www.truthdig.com/images/eartothe … racula.jpg

Last edited by M.O.A.B (2007-05-10 11:40:09)

That guy looks evil.

Kmarion wrote:

http://i5.tinypic.com/4l7sh07.jpg

The good.
"Many of my Republican colleagues have been promised they will get a straight story on the surge by September," said Sen. Gordon Smith (R-Ore.). "I won't be the only Republican, or one of two Republicans, demanding a change in our disposition of troops in Iraq at that point. That is very clear to me."

Is this a step away from politics as usual? Are some politicians beginning to understand that what we all want more than anything is honesty over party loyalty?

Maybe a couple of them think that way.  But most politicians don't care about regular people needs.  They want to mantain their status quo within their parties.

Kmarion wrote:

The Bad
An explosion, apparently caused by a mortar bomb, rattled windows at the building in Baghdad's fortified Green Zone where Cheney and reporters traveling with him were working."His business was not disrupted," said Anne McBride, a Cheney spokeswoman. "He was not moved."

Mortar attacks on the Green Zone are frequent.

After four years of work the "green zone" is still proving to be a challenge in securing. Does Iraq have a chance at stability considering that even the safest areas have proven to be susceptible to attacks? Does this require foreign troops? How long (if ever) will it take?

At the moment there's no chance for Iraq to become a more stable place, and given the facts I doubt it will be any time soon.

Kmarion wrote:

The Sadr
The Sadrist Current has announced the launch of a new political project termed “reform and reconciliation.” The Sadrists say that their aim is to group Iraqi parties from all sects into a project for national reconciliation, and to regain the “patriotic inclusive character” of the Sadrist Current.

A major part of the Sadrist initiative, said al-Hayat, is to distance the Sadrist Current from the sectarian reputation that it has gained over the last years. The newspaper said that Sadrists are exchanging messages with Sunni figures “outside of Iraq” in order for the Current “to regain its image as a ‘resistance organization’ rather than a sectarian one.”

Unification of all sects? Reconciliation? Are Iraqis begining to show signs of turning away from secretarian hate?

Not in a million years.