Israel-Palestine it's not all blood and hate

2007-03-28 19:33:35

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Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|7029|132 and Bush

We know what the majority of the media tells us about these two. My faith in humanity and my hope for a better future for them inspired me to do a little investigation. I found a few groups on both sides that are taking a hard stand against the violence.

Israeli's Opposed to the Occupation-

January 2002, a group of Israeli reserve officers and combat soldiers returned from their duty in the Gaza strip, and drafted a letter that would change they way Israelis conceive the military control of the occupied territories. This document came to be known as the Combatant's Letter.
http://seruv.org.il/english/default.asp

B'TSELEM - The Israeli Information Center for Human Rights in the Occupied Territories was established in 1989 by a group of prominent academics, attorneys, journalists, and Knesset members. It endeavors to document and educate the Israeli public and policymakers about human rights violations in the Occupied Territories, combat the phenomenon of denial prevalent among the Israeli public, and help create a human rights culture in Israel.
http://www.btselem.org/English/

http://www.miftah.org/AboutUs.cfm
The Palestinian Initiative for the Promotion of Global Dialogue and Democracy, MIFTAH, is a non-governmental non-partisan Jerusalem-based institution dedicated to fostering democracy and good governance within Palestinian society through promoting public accountability, transparency, the free flow of information and ideas, and the challenging of stereotyping at home and abroad.

http://sulha.com/

The Sulha Peace Project is a grassroots organization, rooted in the spirit of the prophetic voices from the Holy Land, dedicated to the healing and reconciliation of the children of Abraham through developing a culture of coexistence between Arabs and Jews, Israelis and Palestinians.

http://www.peacenow.org.il/site/en/peace.asp?pi=43
Peace Now is the largest extra-parliamentary movement in Israel, the country’s oldest peace movement and the only peace group to have a broad public base.

http://www.seedsofpeace.org/site/PageSe … me=aboutus
Founded in 1993, Seeds of Peace is dedicated to empowering young leaders from regions of conflict with the leadership skills required to advance reconciliation and coexistence.

Last edited by Kmarion (2007-03-28 19:34:36)

Xbone Stormsurgezz

2007-03-28 19:42:14

#2

ATG: Banned; +5,233|6957|Global Command

Your post, reminds me of every now and then when I dream of a New Order.

The people in power now, in almost every nation, do not represent the people anymore.

It is time for a change.

2007-03-28 20:30:25

#3

Bubbalo: The Lizzard; +541|6989

ATG wrote:
The people in power now, in almost every nation, do not represent the people anymore.

They never do.

2007-03-28 21:48:08

#4

usmarine2007: Banned; +374|6795|Columbus, Ohio

Bubbalo wrote:
ATG wrote:
The people in power now, in almost every nation, do not represent the people anymore.
They never do.

People in this country still think "the people" have the power through their votes....... idiots.

2007-03-28 22:02:21

#5

MoG[Sgt]LionofZion: Member; +1|6978|San Jose Ca

The Palestinians need to go. It is in Gods Word. If you would like me to post the specific verses I will.
But I will not argue about it ...HE said it ..not me.

2007-03-28 22:36:55

#6

Bubbalo: The Lizzard; +541|6989

usmarine2007 wrote:
Bubbalo wrote:
ATG wrote:
The people in power now, in almost every nation, do not represent the people anymore.
They never do.
People in this country still think "the people" have the power through their votes....... idiots.

Actually, not so much that as people will say anything to get into positions of power.

2007-03-28 22:37:58

#7

Bubbalo: The Lizzard; +541|6989

MoG[Sgt]LionofZion wrote:
The Palestinians need to go. It is in Gods Word. If you would like me to post the specific verses I will.
But I will not argue about it ...HE said it ..not me.

What, pray tell, is the difference between your logic and Manifest Destiny?

2007-03-28 23:28:03

#8

blademaster: I'm moving to Brazil; +2,075|7073

usmarine2007 wrote:
Bubbalo wrote:
ATG wrote:
The people in power now, in almost every nation, do not represent the people anymore.
They never do.
People in this country still think "the people" have the power through their votes....... idiots.

rolf I know +1

2007-03-29 01:55:47

#9

JahManRed: wank; +646|7056|IRELAND

ATG wrote:
Your post, reminds me of every now and then when I dream of a New Order.

The people in power now, in almost every nation, do not represent the people anymore.

It is time for a change.

Exactly. One of our governments biggest departments these days is spin/ministry of information. Basically propaganda machines who's only purpose is to make the majority believe they have/want to do what a few politicians want. Not necessarily what is in the best interest of the majority.

2007-03-29 02:26:25

#10

Braddock: Agitator; +916|6718|Éire

MogSgtLionOfZion wrote:
The Palestinians need to go. It is in Gods Word. If you would like me to post the specific verses I will.
But I will not argue about it ...HE said it ..not me.

Bullshit, God doesn't exist and he certainly can't be used to justify any kind of persecution of others in this life. Hitler truly believed that the Jews had to go ...didn't make it okay for him to attempt it.

Last edited by Braddock (2007-03-29 04:40:02)

2007-03-29 04:27:56

#11

CameronPoe: Member; +2,925|6983

MoG[Sgt]LionofZion wrote:
The Palestinians need to go. It is in Gods Word. If you would like me to post the specific verses I will.
But I will not argue about it ...HE said it ..not me.

LOL. MoG. Men of God. I think it should be MoRD. Men of Ridiculous Delusions. Pull your head out of that stupid violent book written by camel herders and embrace reality my friend. The day that book is comletely irrelevant will be the day humans have achieved true enlightenment. You're no better than the Q'uran thumpers.

Last edited by CameronPoe (2007-03-29 04:28:55)

2007-03-29 05:26:49

#12

sergeriver: Cowboy from Hell; +1,928|7185|Argentina

The problem is the people in charge in both sides will never listen to these guys. They should be removed (I mean the people in charge).

2007-03-29 05:36:33

#13

Braddock: Agitator; +916|6718|Éire

sregeriver wrote:
The problem is the people in charge in both sides will never listen to these guys. They should be removed (I mean the people in charge).

I agree, more moderation is needed from both sides. BTW I noticed there is a big plaque/monument in Templebar, Dublin for the Israeli soldiers who object to serving in the occupied territories.

2007-03-29 08:10:09

#14

ATG: Banned; +5,233|6957|Global Command

MoG[Sgt]LionofZion wrote:
The Palestinians need to go. It is in Gods Word. If you would like me to post the specific verses I will.
But I will not argue about it ...HE said it ..not me.

Someday, you will see that people like you are a huge part of the problem, or perhaps not.

This type of religious sentiment (bathering) is exactly why in order for there to be world peace such beliefs must be outlawed.

2007-03-29 08:47:37

#15

rawls2: Mr. Bigglesworth; +89|6988

ATG wrote:
MoG[Sgt]LionofZion wrote:
The Palestinians need to go. It is in Gods Word. If you would like me to post the specific verses I will.
But I will not argue about it ...HE said it ..not me.
Someday, you will see that people like you are a huge part of the problem, or perhaps not.

This type of religious sentiment (bathering) is exactly why in order for there to be world peace such beliefs must be outlawed.

One more time I must point out where in the world are Christians and/or Jews blowing themselves up in the name of Jesus. These religion haters want to say that extreme Judaism is just as bad as extreme islam but it's not. .

2007-03-29 09:01:06

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(T)eflon(S)hadow: R.I.P. Neda; +456|7257|Grapevine, TX

usmarine2007 wrote:
People in this country still think "the people" have the power through their votes....... idiots.

I'm disappointed in you making that statement man. Just last week, "We the People" stopped a bill from passing into law in Texas. The Governor, Rick Perry, has some deep ties in the pharmaceutical industry. He was trying to pass a bill that would mandate all you girls get this shot (before the have sex) before age 12. So to keep the story short, the people of Texas, called their representatives, and the bill did not pass! The principles, freedom's, and ideas the founding fathers had are alive and kicking! Don't ever surrender, to the idea that we don't have the power! WE DO!

2007-03-29 09:41:46

#17

sergeriver: Cowboy from Hell; +1,928|7185|Argentina

rawls2 wrote:
ATG wrote:
MoG[Sgt]LionofZion wrote:
The Palestinians need to go. It is in Gods Word. If you would like me to post the specific verses I will.
But I will not argue about it ...HE said it ..not me.
Someday, you will see that people like you are a huge part of the problem, or perhaps not.

This type of religious sentiment (bathering) is exactly why in order for there to be world peace such beliefs must be outlawed.
One more time I must point out where in the world are Christians and/or Jews blowing themselves up in the name of Jesus. These religion haters want to say that extreme Judaism is just as bad as extreme islam but it's not. .

All extremes are bad.

2007-03-29 10:53:16

#18

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|7029|132 and Bush

ATG wrote:
MoG[Sgt]LionofZion wrote:
The Palestinians need to go. It is in Gods Word. If you would like me to post the specific verses I will.
But I will not argue about it ...HE said it ..not me.
Someday, you will see that people like you are a huge part of the problem, or perhaps not.

This type of religious sentiment (bathering) is exactly why in order for there to be world peace such beliefs must be outlawed.

Understanding and compassion are prerequisite for peace. Those who are incapable of tolerating or respecting another persons beliefs should be the ones removed. The OP illustrates there are rational/civil people on both sides. If only their leaders could realize what appears to be obvious to us.

Xbone Stormsurgezz

2007-03-29 15:36:06

#19

Braddock: Agitator; +916|6718|Éire

MoGSgtLionofZion wrote:
The Palestinians need to go. It is in Gods Word. If you would like me to post the specific verses I will. But I will not argue about it ...HE said it ..not me.

Still waiting on those specific verses... is it anywhere near the part where it says menstruating women should be shunned?

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2007-03-29 19:10:00

#20

Turquoise: O Canada; +1,596|6833|North Carolina

usmarine2007 wrote:
Bubbalo wrote:
ATG wrote:
The people in power now, in almost every nation, do not represent the people anymore.
They never do.
People in this country still think "the people" have the power through their votes....... idiots.

You said it, not me...

2007-03-29 19:11:08

#21

Turquoise: O Canada; +1,596|6833|North Carolina

CameronPoe wrote:
MoG[Sgt]LionofZion wrote:
The Palestinians need to go. It is in Gods Word. If you would like me to post the specific verses I will.
But I will not argue about it ...HE said it ..not me.
LOL. MoG. Men of God. I think it should be MoRD. Men of Ridiculous Delusions. Pull your head out of that stupid violent book written by camel herders and embrace reality my friend. The day that book is comletely irrelevant will be the day humans have achieved true enlightenment. You're no better than the Q'uran thumpers.

Amen... lol

2007-03-29 19:18:01

#22

SgtHeihn: Should have ducked; +394|6915|Ham Lake, MN (Fucking Cold)

Fighting for Peace is like fucking for Virginity

But the sad thing is war is big business and most politicians have their hand in the pot.

It benefits the money makers to have instability in the Middle East, because if they ever got their shit togther they could bring the rest of the world to their knees (OIL)

edit: spelling

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2007-03-29 19:20:13

#23

killaer: Member; +41|7146

Allahu Akbar!!!!

2007-03-29 19:20:14

#24

Turquoise: O Canada; +1,596|6833|North Carolina

SgtHeihn wrote:
Fighting for Peace is like fucking for Virginity

But the sad thing is war is big business and most politicians have their hand in the pot.

It benefits the money makers to have instability in the Middle East, because if they ever got their shit togther they could bring the rest of the world to their knees (OIL)

edit: spelling

Exactly... that and instability raises the value of commodities like oil.

Defense industry stocks have skyrocketed in value over the last few years....

2007-03-29 19:28:09

#25

SgtHeihn: Should have ducked; +394|6915|Ham Lake, MN (Fucking Cold)

Turquoise wrote:
SgtHeihn wrote:
Fighting for Peace is like fucking for Virginity

But the sad thing is war is big business and most politicians have their hand in the pot.

It benefits the money makers to have instability in the Middle East, because if they ever got their shit togther they could bring the rest of the world to their knees (OIL)

edit: spelling
Exactly... that and instability raises the value of commodities like oil.

Defense industry stocks have skyrocketed in value over the last few years....

yes sir, because of Iran being stupid with the British about the 15 Sailors and Marines, a barrel of crude oil was almost at $69 us a barrel, it dropped back down to around $65

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