The best jet ever is the Lockheed SR-71 Blackbird
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_SR-71
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_SR-71
The Saab JAS 39 Gripen is the best modern fighterplane! It's just a shame it hasn't been used more than on airshows because it is a really good plane. This is a competitor to Raptor and the Eurofighter.
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Arnold Schwarzenegger also ran over cars with it in True Lies, and dished out a crotch joke with its tail minutes later into the film. That movie is largely responsible for my jet deaths, when I merely hover outside of a building and fire bullets into it.Towelly wrote:
The Harrier..
Just because it was innovative at the time and it actually experienced combat and proved itself.
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Shame it isn't a fighter jet.Mogura wrote:
The best jet ever is the Lockheed SR-71 Blackbird
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_SR-71
F-16 for Air to ground? are you kidding me?cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:
Naval: F14
Air to ground: F16
Air to Air: F15.
A-10 For the fucking win
of all time though? i'd say the german tri planes were fucking awesome but...
idk, F-15 comes to mind as it was never shot down in combat, so yeah
A-10 Warthog
Or the C-17 Globemaster
Or the B-2 "Spirit" Bomber
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Or the C-17 Globemaster
Or the B-2 "Spirit" Bomber
Air to Ground has to be the B-52. Blowing stuff up for half a century and still going strong.genius_man16 wrote:
F-16 for Air to ground? are you kidding me?cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:
Naval: F14
Air to ground: F16
Air to Air: F15.
A-10 For the fucking win
For its Era .. the The F15 and F86 in that order. ( for fighters )
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dude, how can you pass up the 30 mm GAU-8/A Avenger Gatling gun??Bertster7 wrote:
Air to Ground has to be the B-52. Blowing stuff up for half a century and still going strong.genius_man16 wrote:
F-16 for Air to ground? are you kidding me?cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:
Naval: F14
Air to ground: F16
Air to Air: F15.
A-10 For the fucking win
*drool* a cannon that can take out tanks in 6 shots.... *orgasm*
no sir, just noYaocelotl wrote:
Although it's a little bit old, it still does the job against imperial tie fighters:
http://www.thomasmodels.com/gallery/mf5.jpg
The F-15 has never had a combat loss and has been in service for at least 30 years. Thats pretty remarkable. Also, any jet that can fly home after having a mid-air collision and losing one entire wing, is a winner in my book.
Actually that's not entirely true. F-15's have been shot down by Surface To Air missiles during Desert Storm. But not one F-15 has been shot down by an enemy aircraft.Cougar wrote:
The F-15 has never had a combat loss and has been in service for at least 30 years.
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Details Watson, details.Big McLargehuge wrote:
Actually that's not entirely true. F-15's have been shot down by Surface To Air missiles during Desert Storm. But not one F-15 has been shot down by an enemy aircraft.Cougar wrote:
The F-15 has never had a combat loss and has been in service for at least 30 years.
The English Electric Lightning, that's certainly one of the best in my books. Design wise, it wasn't the most efficient, fuel being a major problem, but it dominated in speed. I just like the character the aircraft has.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_Lightning
Stryyker, nice choice of aircraft btw, its a beautiful plane. Almost forgot about her.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_Lightning
Stryyker, nice choice of aircraft btw, its a beautiful plane. Almost forgot about her.
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Something interesting from Ralph Peters
"But we don't need the F-22. It's purchase is one of the greatest outrages in the history of congressional pork, crowning the long tradition of buying ever-costlier aircraft of diminishing utility, from the claptrap B-1 bomber (the solid jalopy of the skies) through the billion dollar-plus B-2 stealth bomber, whose cost leaves the airforce terrified of using it in dangerous situations, to the vulnerable and unnecessary (but profitable) F-117, a distinctively unstealthy"stealth" fighter bomber that could not even evade Serbian air defenses. Consistently, our most successful combat aircraft have been those, such as the A-10 ground attack aircraft or the F-15, F-16, and the F-18 multi role fighters whose design was straightforward and whose cost was rational. The purpose of our military is to fight. Mission accomplishment comes before all else. But pilots are conditioned to not put their expensive aircraft at risk, even flying outside the enemy's air defense envelope meant compromising the missions. Such functional cowardice would be unthinkable in the Marines or Army."
The culture of the Airforce is broken, the RMA has shattered it. And buying three hundred million dollar F-22's that we don't need, and can't afford won't fix it. We're not going to dogfight Soviet ghost. Most of our air missions will be to support ground combat. Buying aircraft so expensive that the Air Force feels it can't afford to risk them in battle does nothing for our national defense. It's merely a gift to the defense industry. And congress wraps it with a new blue ribbon every year.
The F-22 is a destructive purchase that will result in fewer operational aircraft available at a time when we need it the most.
Early in 2004 the US airforce engaged in war games with the Indian Air Force. Our blue-suiters went into the exercise full of hubris. Our attitude was arrogant, our planning was inadequate, and our pilot performance was poor, added to which we turned off parts of the electronics suite on each of our fighters to protect our classified capabilities. By studying our tactics and developing innovative responses, the Indians handed our Air Force humiliating defeats, fortunately only in mock combat. The problem is not the quality of our equipment, but human failure. Our Air Force committed the beginners error and underestimated the opponent. The result? With breathtaking shamelessness the Airforce insisted that the loss to the Indians proved we needed the F-22. No matter that the Indians won through tactics, imagination, and numbers, or that the Air Force intelligence officers, planners, and pilots let America down.
"But we don't need the F-22. It's purchase is one of the greatest outrages in the history of congressional pork, crowning the long tradition of buying ever-costlier aircraft of diminishing utility, from the claptrap B-1 bomber (the solid jalopy of the skies) through the billion dollar-plus B-2 stealth bomber, whose cost leaves the airforce terrified of using it in dangerous situations, to the vulnerable and unnecessary (but profitable) F-117, a distinctively unstealthy"stealth" fighter bomber that could not even evade Serbian air defenses. Consistently, our most successful combat aircraft have been those, such as the A-10 ground attack aircraft or the F-15, F-16, and the F-18 multi role fighters whose design was straightforward and whose cost was rational. The purpose of our military is to fight. Mission accomplishment comes before all else. But pilots are conditioned to not put their expensive aircraft at risk, even flying outside the enemy's air defense envelope meant compromising the missions. Such functional cowardice would be unthinkable in the Marines or Army."
The culture of the Airforce is broken, the RMA has shattered it. And buying three hundred million dollar F-22's that we don't need, and can't afford won't fix it. We're not going to dogfight Soviet ghost. Most of our air missions will be to support ground combat. Buying aircraft so expensive that the Air Force feels it can't afford to risk them in battle does nothing for our national defense. It's merely a gift to the defense industry. And congress wraps it with a new blue ribbon every year.
The F-22 is a destructive purchase that will result in fewer operational aircraft available at a time when we need it the most.
Early in 2004 the US airforce engaged in war games with the Indian Air Force. Our blue-suiters went into the exercise full of hubris. Our attitude was arrogant, our planning was inadequate, and our pilot performance was poor, added to which we turned off parts of the electronics suite on each of our fighters to protect our classified capabilities. By studying our tactics and developing innovative responses, the Indians handed our Air Force humiliating defeats, fortunately only in mock combat. The problem is not the quality of our equipment, but human failure. Our Air Force committed the beginners error and underestimated the opponent. The result? With breathtaking shamelessness the Airforce insisted that the loss to the Indians proved we needed the F-22. No matter that the Indians won through tactics, imagination, and numbers, or that the Air Force intelligence officers, planners, and pilots let America down.
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I'm going to go with the Harrier, simply for the innovation factor. Had the cold war boiled over, its VTOL capability would have proved invaluable.
Cyborg, you have ended your own thread with this post. It's undebatable...cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:
Naval: F14
Air to ground: F16
Air to Air: F15.
Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.