JaM3z
Banned
+311|7277
There was no need to close this thread, even though all this bitching contest....

This topic needs to be talked about, after all we are the end user of this product, we are the community here, we play this game on a daily basis and many of us may or may not agree with the "ROE" or the Battlefield 2 police.

And this forum is one of the only battlefield 2 forums that isnt completly full of idiots, look at the total bf2 forums and others like it, its completly pathetic the complete amount of moaning about statpadding and whatever.

The only reason we dont get regular posts on this forum from indian scout or any other of the bf2 police is because we have free speach here, we dont have any of that word filter shit thats puts *** incase we decide to say shit fuck wank bollocks.

And here was my long written out to reply to the IndianScout's gone nuts. Thread.

ExecutionerStyle wrote:

http://www.totalbf2.com/forums/showthread.php?t=85844

Teamkilling for vehicles and Teamkilling

(c) Players may not deliberately performing actions that hinder their own team (such as last-minute team-swapping to increase scores or statistics, excessive team-killing, destroying friendly vehicles, attacking team-mates,

Standing on the runway because you didnt get the aircraft

deliberately placing themselves in a situation so they cause another player to team-kill them, using a vehicle while being the Commander that prevents them from performing any Commander functions (jet, etc.) or placing vehicles to block their own runways.

Uncap attacks and cartillery

(d) Making attacks on enemy main bases (flags that cannot be captured), including artillery strikes, vehicle drops to block runways, bombing runs with aircraft or sustained infantry attacks. (Note that specific attacks targeting the enemy commander’s asset buildings are always allowed, even if they are within the enemy main base.)

(e) Using transport helicopters to quickly capture all flags with no attempt to engage the other team (flag hopping).

(f) Using C4 explosives on fast-moving vehicles to destroy other vehicles (C4-ramming)

(g) Ignoring requests from Server Administrators or abusing Server Administrators.



these rules changes may affect your style of play, and will give players the ability to report those players who want to disrupt normal game activities..

your thoughts??

Indian


If this gets put through, BF2 will officially be dead.
To these i can quite happily say:

fuck this guys, fuck these noobs, why is it if they get pwnt then it is OBVIOUSLY agasint the rules, since when did a FPS have rules? ever? serioulsy? does css have rules? does quake 4 have rules? does doom 3 have rules? does americas army have rules? does lemmings have rules??????

This is getting way out of hand, how the hell are new players supposed to know about this "rules", what gives these people the right to define these rules? the community does not agree with these rules... so this game is getting more like a dictatorship everyday.

Didnt we invade iraq over a dictatorship? so when do we get to invade the EA offices??

This is so dumb i cant be assed with it anymore, and general community feeling on these nazi wannabe's is getting more sour everyday, if EA want people to go and buy there new games, with all these rules to aggree to then they must be nuts, and why do that put a idiots in charge of it.

My server is agasint the ROE, only rules you dont stat pad (otherwise i loose my server) and you dont use the hotel glitch.

Do i really care about people spawn raping, i mean take wake island for example USMC cant get off the carrier the J-10's rape them, BUT they still spawn WHY, why are they not clever enough to spawn below decks... why arnt they clever enough to get into the 2 AA guns on the essex?

Why because there complete idiots........ as well as the people that write these rules...

This game has officaly been destroyed, its a joke, who wants to play a game where you can have your o-so precious stats reset???

CSS is getting mroe fun than this game, you dont worry about your "stats" you own if you own and if you dont you get better....

i think the way of policing this game has got way out of hand, why do we need these rules? why do we need people stars to be reset? to you actually think i care about my stats? you could take them away and i will still own your ass...........

And why should i care if people statpad to get a "award" its a few pixels on a screen it doesnt harm another player if i have a award and they dont, it doesnt make there keybored bite there fingers off..... it doesnt do anything it doesnt mean anything.

The fact that these childish people are left in charge of the ROE makes me sick, they make up bullshit rules because they are no good at this game, and the fact they are opointed by EA or DICE or who ever the fuck apoints them is pathetic.

Anyway i cant be assed to write anymore.

Whatever

GG EA & DICE

And i say this in my most diplomatic tone:  "Indian Scout Fuck You and Good Day"

Now can anyone manage to keep this disscusion from going into a flame war, just people's opions on the ROE, the Battlefield 2 Police, and also the way that this effects your game or just how you feel about.

Mods:  i would rather like it if this thread wasnt closed as people do need to voice there opinions, how ever if it turns into a flame war then close it/delete it wahtever.....

I apologies for the lack of spelling punctuation and everyting else, but i cant be botherd to change any of it.
xX[Elangbam]Xx
Member
+107|7265
i was going to quote you but then i thought...holy crap thats long. Neway...yeah i'm on that side...which is against the new rules which i guess it EAs? wow....it hurts
Knight`UK
Lollerstorycarpark
+371|7147|England
plus 1 for you man haveing the balls to reopen this
jord
Member
+2,382|7245|The North, beyond the wall.
I hope they don't close this.

I think he needs to stop being a dick,BF2 would be more fun without him.
elmo1337
Banned
+186|7126|The real world
I stopped playing at public servers to, either they are full with noobs, are all the colonels teamed up and are raping our asses

We need to get another 3 members, tired of the publics, so we can start playing on clanbase, where the faggotry is not avaible
Sr7
Member
+1|7170
Read the full ROE guys those things aren't against the rules, they're examples of rules an admin CAN choose to enforce on their own server if they want, without being considered abusive or breaking rules. Also, IndianScout doesn't dictate this stuff. It's EA's document.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE LEARN TO READ KIDS. EVEN IF YOU'RE TOO COOL FOR SCHOOL!

Last edited by Sr7 (2006-07-20 13:01:15)

explosivo
Banned
+262|7210
i like chips

with kechup, Mmmmmmm
PspRpg-7
-
+961|7265

explosivo wrote:

i like chips

with kechup, Mmmmmmm
You suck at derailing.
BFROE|IndianScout
Member
+41|7079
ok I will state this once and for all,

I'm not some 16 year old kid, I hold 2 Engineering Degree's and have been in the gaming beta programs for alot of years..

even tho this new ROE contains alot of my origional document I didnt write this version, I gave the ROE to EA and this is completely their new version.

so if you have a problem with the new ROE please write EA, instead of making unfounded stupid comments about me

thanks for your time

Indian
King_County_Downy
shitfaced
+2,791|7164|Seattle

OMG u gonna get teh ban. Teh mods r angry hehe
Sober enough to know what I'm doing, drunk enough to really enjoy doing it
jord
Member
+2,382|7245|The North, beyond the wall.

PspRpg-7 wrote:

explosivo wrote:

i like chips

with kechup, Mmmmmmm
You suck at derailing.
Agreed.
Knight`UK
Lollerstorycarpark
+371|7147|England

Sr7 wrote:

Read the full ROE guys those things aren't against the rules, they're examples of rules an admin CAN choose to enforce on their own server if they want, without being considered abusive or breaking rules. Also, IndianScout doesn't dictate this stuff. It's EA's document.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE LEARN TO READ KIDS. EVEN IF YOU'RE TOO COOL FOR SCHOOL!
Please tell me your not one of those people who report players ?? If so its you and the rest of the gits spoiling the game .I mean come on why reset someones stats for the blackhawk thing that happened agaes ago its just so queer and kiddish its untrue .
Sr7
Member
+1|7170

xX[Elangbam]Xx wrote:

i was going to quote you but then i thought...holy crap thats long. Neway...yeah i'm on that side...which is against the new rules which i guess it EAs? wow....it hurts
Re-read the full thing. You guys are getting worked up over nothing. The rules aren't new. They're not even rules! They say server admins are allowed to enforce these on their servers if they want to! Get it yet? The examples have been there since the thing was conceived....
Sr7
Member
+1|7170

Knight`UK wrote:

Sr7 wrote:

Read the full ROE guys those things aren't against the rules, they're examples of rules an admin CAN choose to enforce on their own server if they want, without being considered abusive or breaking rules. Also, IndianScout doesn't dictate this stuff. It's EA's document.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE LEARN TO READ KIDS. EVEN IF YOU'RE TOO COOL FOR SCHOOL!
Please tell me your not one of those people who report players ?? If so its you and the rest of the gits spoiling the game .I mean come on why reset someones stats for the blackhawk thing that happened agaes ago its just so queer and kiddish its untrue .
What the fuck are you talking about? I clarified the part of the ROE that no one is bothering to read. Why are you sitting there making assumptions?
bakarocket
Member
+12|7116
I like the rules, but I also like realism. Maybe I'm old fashioned, but I think the game should be fun for everyone playing, not just the guys in the J-10 raping the carrier.

However, I also think that on your own server, you should be able to make (or not make) your own rules. If that's fun for you, then great; I'll stay on the servers I like, you stay on yours.

702 recon has an awesome server for good rules that aid in the realism/fun aspect.
eagles1106
Member
+269|7151|Marlton, New Jersey.
um yeah...

(d) Making attacks on enemy main bases (flags that cannot be captured), including artillery strikes, vehicle drops to block runways, bombing runs with aircraft or sustained infantry attacks. (Note that specific attacks targeting the enemy commander’s asset buildings are always allowed, even if they are within the enemy main base.)

(e) Using transport helicopters to quickly capture all flags with no attempt to engage the other team (flag hopping).

(f) Using C4 explosives on fast-moving vehicles to destroy other vehicles (C4-ramming)

These 3 could all be real life situations in the military, so why wouldn't Ea and Dice allow it?  I'm pretty sure in real life an army will take a whole fucking squadron of transport choppers to secure enemy territory and then will move on to do the same.  There is real jihad car bombers in life.
In real life it is possible to attack the opposing enemies MAIN position, raid airbases with your own airforce, and paradrop in (halo jumping in bf2).  Oh but I forgot, EA and Dice want to make it FAIR.  The game is fair enough as it is, don't "gayzerize" it anymore.  Hell, the other team complains about base rapers on uncaps, GET OUT OF THE FUCKING UNCAP THEN OR GO CAP A FLAG.  You don't like Jihad-jeepers?  PAY ATTENTION MORE NEXT TIME OR JUST BAIL OUT IF YOU SEE THEM COMING, CHRIST!  You don't like "flag hopping", SHOOT DOWN THE ENEMY CHOPPER OR USE YOUR COMMANDER TO FIND OUT WHERE THE CHOPPER IS GOING AND DEFEND THAT FLAG,  ITS REALLY NOT THAT HARD. Goodbye
Im not saying I break the rules, but I wouldn't totally agree with them.....

Last edited by eagles1106 (2006-07-20 13:09:16)

Sydney
2λчиэλ
+783|7410|Reykjavík, Iceland.
Why is everybody always talking about "J-10 raping carrier" I haven't been raped a single time by a J-10 while staying on the carrier...
l41e
Member
+677|7215

Who gives a flying fuck? You guys break the "ROE" whatever they are, shut up, stop moaning and whining about every little thing IndianScout does since you end up not caring anyway! Jesus Christ.
Sr7
Member
+1|7170

eagles1106 wrote:

um yeah...

(d) Making attacks on enemy main bases (flags that cannot be captured), including artillery strikes, vehicle drops to block runways, bombing runs with aircraft or sustained infantry attacks. (Note that specific attacks targeting the enemy commander’s asset buildings are always allowed, even if they are within the enemy main base.)

(e) Using transport helicopters to quickly capture all flags with no attempt to engage the other team (flag hopping).

(f) Using C4 explosives on fast-moving vehicles to destroy other vehicles (C4-ramming)

These 3 could all be real life situations in the military, so why wouldn't Ea and Dice allow it?  I'm pretty sure in real life an army will take a whole fucking squadron of transport choppers to secure enemy territory and then will move on to do the same.  There is real jihad car bombers in life.
In real life it is possible to attack the opposing enemies MAIN position, raid airbases with your own airforce, and paradrop in (halo jumping in bf2).  Oh but I forgot, EA and Dice want to make it FAIR.  The game is fair enough as it is, don't "gayzerize" it anymore.  Hell, the other team complains about base rapers on uncaps, GET OUT OF THE FUCKING UNCAP THEN OR GO CAP A FLAG.  You don't like Jihad-jeepers?  PAY ATTENTION MORE NEXT TIME OR JUST BAIL OUT IF YOU SEE THEM COMING, CHRIST!  You don't like "flag hopping", SHOOT DOWN THE ENEMY CHOPPER OR USE YOUR COMMANDER TO FIND OUT WHERE THE CHOPPER IS GOING AND DEFEND THAT FLAG,  ITS REALLY NOT THAT HARD. Goodbye
Hey genius... ITS NOT AGAINST THE RULES THEY'RE EXAMPLES OF RULES THAT PEOPLE CAN ADD TO THEIR OWN SERVERS. Get it yet? Do I have to post this another 6 times?
Knight`UK
Lollerstorycarpark
+371|7147|England

Sr7 wrote:

Knight`UK wrote:

Sr7 wrote:

Read the full ROE guys those things aren't against the rules, they're examples of rules an admin CAN choose to enforce on their own server if they want, without being considered abusive or breaking rules. Also, IndianScout doesn't dictate this stuff. It's EA's document.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE LEARN TO READ KIDS. EVEN IF YOU'RE TOO COOL FOR SCHOOL!
Please tell me your not one of those people who report players ?? If so its you and the rest of the gits spoiling the game .I mean come on why reset someones stats for the blackhawk thing that happened agaes ago its just so queer and kiddish its untrue .
What the fuck are you talking about? I clarified the part of the ROE that no one is bothering to read. Why are you sitting there making assumptions?
I bet your trying to make yourself look good m8 so you can join the bf2 nazi police ,i can read well enough thanks for asking .I just dont agree we need people telling us how to play a game WE ALL FUCKING PAYE FOR .
bakarocket
Member
+12|7116

PBAsydney wrote:

Why is everybody always talking about "J-10 raping carrier" I haven't been raped a single time by a J-10 while staying on the carrier...
If you get a couple of good J-10 pilots, you can't get off of the carrier (or the island), in Wake. It probably happens to me 50% of the time when I'm USMC.
YoBabysDaddy
Member
+31|7391|St. Louis, MO

Sr7 wrote:

Read the full ROE guys those things aren't against the rules, they're examples of rules an admin CAN choose to enforce on their own server if they want, without being considered abusive or breaking rules. Also, IndianScout doesn't dictate this stuff. It's EA's document.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE LEARN TO READ KIDS. EVEN IF YOU'RE TOO COOL FOR SCHOOL!
Thank you,at least some people get it.
Prodie
Moderator Emeritus
+270|7341|Nova Scotia, Canada

BFROE|IndianScout wrote:

ok I will state this once and for all,

I'm not some 16 year old kid, I hold 2 Engineering Degree's and have been in the gaming beta programs for alot of years..

even tho this new ROE contains alot of my origional document I didnt write this version, I gave the ROE to EA and this is completely their new version.

so if you have a problem with the new ROE please write EA, instead of making unfounded stupid comments about me

thanks for your time

Indian
There. If you have any complaints with Indian (Which you shouldn't for the reason he just posted), take it up via PM. This thread is already degrading with comments such as "fuck them, fuck these people", and it's being derailed slowly.

The last topic was closed, and seing how this topic is only going to evolve into "IndianScout is a dumbass, what stupid rules are they!!!11121112!", it's closed again
King_County_Downy
shitfaced
+2,791|7164|Seattle

*cough* un-nerf the miniguns *cough*


(just in case they read this...uh yeah, I'm THAT important)
Sober enough to know what I'm doing, drunk enough to really enjoy doing it
JaM3z
Banned
+311|7277

BFROE|IndianScout wrote:

ok I will state this once and for all,

I'm not some 16 year old kid, I hold 2 Engineering Degree's and have been in the gaming beta programs for alot of years..

even tho this new ROE contains alot of my origional document I didnt write this version, I gave the ROE to EA and this is completely their new version.

so if you have a problem with the new ROE please write EA, instead of making unfounded stupid comments about me

thanks for your time

Indian
It doesnt look like the way you put it from the communitys point of veiw, and to be honest why is there a ROE? do you see other games having a ROE? do they even need one?

Why does battlefield 2 need a ROE?

Explain these questions for me and i will be happy to shut up.

And i am really not botherd if you have 2 enginereing degree's i have 4 degree's in computer science but i dont need to tell people about them in my posts.

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