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Mitch wrote:

Got my GED in March
you should ride that Good Enough Diploma for all it's worth. After all, you ditched out of core competency classes and P.E. to make up for it by passing sixth grade tests, and selling vacuum cleaners (the only thing that hasn't sucked) and having a master plan of being a door-to-door salesman. Good luck in life.
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Wait non science phds and masters. Whyyyy
Also you guys are right next to a bunch of countries where education is free.... Germany, sweden, norway etc
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Surfdaddy wrote:

Wait non science phds and masters. Whyyyy
Also you guys are right next to a bunch of countries where education is free.... Germany, sweden, norway etc
because most of their universities aren't as good if you're trying to build a career, particularly in academia. it's a prestige game. to get a tenure track position in America in competitive/traditional disciplines, you have to attend one of about 15 top departments or it's all over. and even then you could skip on with your doctorate from Stanford and have to spend the first 5 years of your career in buttfuck, Minnesota.

also it's not as simple as 'Europe has free college'. it's not always free to non nationals and the language of instruction and examination isn't always English.

I'm not sure what you mean by questioning non-science PhD's. to teach a subject at university level you need a doctorate. to do professional research you need a postgrad degree. I guess you're suggesting none of our schools should teach anything to future generations that isn't STEM. what a brave new world!
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Steve-0 wrote:

Mitch wrote:

Got my GED in March
you should ride that Good Enough Diploma for all it's worth. After all, you ditched out of core competency classes and P.E. to make up for it by passing sixth grade tests, and selling vacuum cleaners (the only thing that hasn't sucked) and having a master plan of being a door-to-door salesman. Good luck in life.
mitch got his GED, I got my bachelor's
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uziq wrote:

btw imperial isn't part of the UoL anymore
That's probably for the best.
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Dilbert_X wrote:

uziq wrote:

btw imperial isn't part of the UoL anymore
That's probably for the best.
because the university of london is about one of five British universities with genuine worldwide reach and impact? just because a narrow branch of science is evidently all you are interested in in this world, it doesn't objectively devalue everything else. that's called being ignorant. not generally a sign of great percipience.

so you're a narrow minded engineer who is good at his narrow area of applied expertise and technical knowledge. great. that is an achievement. but then you come out with ludicrous shit, like a federal university with all of its colleges ranked in the worldwide top 1-2% of institutions is worthless. right. imperial ranks very well but it's incredibly specialised and lean as an institution, which forfeits all sorts of performance-metric difficulties the larger institutions have to deal with. there are pros and cons to both structures, for sure. specialised colleges are normally ranked separately, though; what's the use comparing a sciences only institute with a university that has 200 years of prestige in linguistics? but still you'll pretend they're not worth their salt. perhaps you're just a bit of a simpleton, for all your textbook knowledge.

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uziq wrote:

. to get a tenure track position in America in competitive/traditional disciplines, you have to attend one of about 15 top departments or it's all over. and even then you could skip on with your doctorate from Stanford and have to spend the first 5 years of your career in buttfuck, Minnesota. !
Even with those top degrees it's becoming more and more common that top talent end up in postdoctoral positions or mindnumbingly shitty schools. I have a buddy with a PhD in Chemistry from Harvard and the dude is looking at a 3 year stint down in Arizona as penance for not publishing in Nature enough.
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uziq wrote:

Surfdaddy wrote:

Wait non science phds and masters. Whyyyy
Also you guys are right next to a bunch of countries where education is free.... Germany, sweden, norway etc
because most of their universities aren't as good if you're trying to build a career, particularly in academia. it's a prestige game. to get a tenure track position in America in competitive/traditional disciplines, you have to attend one of about 15 top departments or it's all over. and even then you could skip on with your doctorate from Stanford and have to spend the first 5 years of your career in buttfuck, Minnesota.

also it's not as simple as 'Europe has free college'. it's not always free to non nationals and the language of instruction and examination isn't always English.

I'm not sure what you mean by questioning non-science PhD's. to teach a subject at university level you need a doctorate. to do professional research you need a postgrad degree. I guess you're suggesting none of our schools should teach anything to future generations that isn't STEM. what a brave new world!
Figured Id get that fiery response from ya. Im just messin. Non stem has its place for sure. I guess if thats the track youre going then thats fine. I would never want my terminal degree tract to be just a prof.... That whole prestige/networking game is idiotic. You have to kiss ass the cast from the big bang theorey who could never use and didnt have the social skills to apply their technical skills to the real world. Really a shame. Youd be surprised at the amount if school in Europe offering courses in english as well. Just curious what is your phd disseration?
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you have to kiss ass and network wisely in any profession so I don't know why you're isolating academia as being unattractive for that reason. and why would being a professor not be desirable to you? it's like one of the most socially recognised positions in any career, full stop. being a literature professor would be badass. you get to write and talk about art that blows your mind... and get paid for it. really not sure where you're coming from where the professor thing seems like an awful dead end. lack of social skills? real world? really? these positions involve public speaking and rhetoric on a daily basis. Wtf is the 'real world' that doesn't include universities in its remit, by the way? oh so advertising is 'the real world' but the ivory tower isn't.

yore an Moran

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who is surfdaddy and why does he think and post like an androoz that was allowed to stay?
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Haha youre fun to rile up. Ive found many of my profs to be closed minded arrogant dorks who perpetuate science that has no real world bearing. Using their new found position of power to take out there teenaged repressed angst on anyone who doesnt fit into their ideals. I never said it was a dead end job, all my profs would just much rather be doing research, not helping spread a love of the subject. Spewing pre written slides does not bear any semblance to having good social skills in my books, but that is purely subjective. A priciple an english major would be very well acquainted with.
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sorry but there's a little more to being an english major than backing out of every half-formed tirade you have with, 'well, it's all subjective man'.
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Cybargs wrote:

professors essentially are the only people who truly do what they love and get paid for it. no one just casually strolls into it
I love what I do and get paid for it.

Your an mormon
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who is surfdaddy and why does he think and post like an androoz that was allowed to stay?
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Jay wrote:

Cybargs wrote:

professors essentially are the only people who truly do what they love and get paid for it. no one just casually strolls into it
I love what I do and get paid for it.

Your an mormon
did you grow up wanting to be a HVAC engineer? you've said here before you'd ideally love to teach history in semi-retirement, I.e. make your intellectual interests pay. so you're being a bit disingenuous to cybargs there.
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sorry but there's a little more to being an english major than backing out of every half-formed tirade you have with, 'well, it's all subjective man'.
Ah gotcha. Thanks for the enlightenment sensei
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Jay wrote:

uziq wrote:

who is surfdaddy and why does he think and post like an androoz that was allowed to stay?
Used to be Shocking
no
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uziq wrote:

Jay wrote:

Cybargs wrote:

professors essentially are the only people who truly do what they love and get paid for it. no one just casually strolls into it
I love what I do and get paid for it.

Your an mormon
did you grow up wanting to be a HVAC engineer? you've said here before you'd ideally love to teach history in semi-retirement, I.e. make your intellectual interests pay. so you're being a bit disingenuous to cybargs there.
I didn't dream of being anything as a kid. I had no idea what I wanted to do when I left high school. You can have more than one interest you know.
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