I remember going to fill up both the family cars when it was £0.70 a litre cause there was a strike on ಠ_ಠ
Diesel 1.75€ +
Petrol 1.82€ +
here....its crazy.
Worst thing is i have a petrol engine...
Petrol 1.82€ +
here....its crazy.
Worst thing is i have a petrol engine...
Last edited by aerodynamic (2012-03-08 11:44:22)
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Another moron speaks!Finray wrote:
stop being a stereotypical american as usual, you don't need a pickup
the focus is a better idea of what you want. you want small, 1-1.6l engine, no more than 100k miles, and something that's fairly common. (common = cheaper repair parts)
and don't think because you're a "straight-a" student you're going to get cheap car insurance, you'll still get fucked. You're a teenage male, therefore you're an idiot driver (in the insurers eyes). this is why you want a small car. Smaller car = less potential speed = smaller accident = cheaper repairs = cheaper insurance quote
I don't know if you guys have the same insurance comparing websites we have, like www.comparethemarket.com, www.confused.com, www.gocompare.com, but they're where you want to go to get a general idea about prices. Also, ask your parents if you can get put on their policy. If they don't go for it, ask them to be put under your name, but on a seperate policy (it'll still be cheaper, but they won't get their no-claims wrecked if you stick your car into an orphanage).
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but if you do get the pickup shifty you can attach a gun and be just like the terrorists in bf2
he's not really wrong on the small car thing jay
petrol (gas) is getting more expensive everywhere yes, so economy is becoming important. given that brad a) isn't a tradesman, and as far as i know not a mass murderer, he probably doesn't need a pickup. b) they don't look good, drive nicely or go easy on petrol. added, i doubt they insure well for a young driver
given 10k to spend on a vehicle in his situation, what would you have? a pickup which isn't really useful for him day to day, or easy on the wallet, or would you pick a hatchback which will a) look much nicer b) should be cheaper to run in all areas c) drive far far better (and contrary to popular european opinion, california does actually have windy roads. they even have roundabouts!) and be far more suitable for driving to 'dances' or down to the supermarket to perv on some girl he's never going to ask out
petrol (gas) is getting more expensive everywhere yes, so economy is becoming important. given that brad a) isn't a tradesman, and as far as i know not a mass murderer, he probably doesn't need a pickup. b) they don't look good, drive nicely or go easy on petrol. added, i doubt they insure well for a young driver
given 10k to spend on a vehicle in his situation, what would you have? a pickup which isn't really useful for him day to day, or easy on the wallet, or would you pick a hatchback which will a) look much nicer b) should be cheaper to run in all areas c) drive far far better (and contrary to popular european opinion, california does actually have windy roads. they even have roundabouts!) and be far more suitable for driving to 'dances' or down to the supermarket to perv on some girl he's never going to ask out
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Absolutely nothing wrong with a Ford Ranger. Total piece of shit that doesn't go past 65 mph and has a tiny 4 cylinder engine, but for a first car, you could do worse. If it snows where you are, you'll need to put bags of sand in the bed in the winter to prevent the ass end sliding out.
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Yes, Ford Rangers do go easy on the gas. They have tiny 4 cylinder engines and weigh next to nothing. The bed of the truck is thin sheet steel. They're also governed to go about 65 mph tops.FatherTed wrote:
he's not really wrong on the small car thing jay
petrol (gas) is getting more expensive everywhere yes, so economy is becoming important. given that brad a) isn't a tradesman, and as far as i know not a mass murderer, he probably doesn't need a pickup. b) they don't look good, drive nicely or go easy on petrol. added, i doubt they insure well for a young driver
given 10k to spend on a vehicle in his situation, what would you have? a pickup which isn't really useful for him day to day, or easy on the wallet, or would you pick a hatchback which will a) look much nicer b) should be cheaper to run in all areas c) drive far far better (and contrary to popular european opinion, california does actually have windy roads. they even have roundabouts!) and be far more suitable for driving to 'dances' or down to the supermarket to perv on some girl he's never going to ask out
Aesthetics don't matter. I'm just really fucking tired of the Euros on this forum talking out of their ass and insisting that the way they do things in their own country is by default correct. No, he should not drive a fucking Citroen or whatever shitbox Finray has
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Not really talking out of your ass when you're right bro.
You drive the cars you do because your government thinks you should. Should we have $10/gallon taxes too?jord wrote:
Not really talking out of your ass when you're right bro.
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Unless you work construction or have bikes or something you should go with 4 door.
Using a pickup just to drive around: ISHYGDDT
Using a pickup just to drive around: ISHYGDDT
they're 2.3l though yes? even on a 4-pot thats gonna be around 30mpg so says Ford, and producer estimates are always bullshit. weight i'm getting as around 2t and change, and they seat 3?Jay wrote:
Yes, Ford Rangers do go easy on the gas. They have tiny 4 cylinder engines and weigh next to nothing. The bed of the truck is thin sheet steel. They're also governed to go about 65 mph tops.FatherTed wrote:
he's not really wrong on the small car thing jay
petrol (gas) is getting more expensive everywhere yes, so economy is becoming important. given that brad a) isn't a tradesman, and as far as i know not a mass murderer, he probably doesn't need a pickup. b) they don't look good, drive nicely or go easy on petrol. added, i doubt they insure well for a young driver
given 10k to spend on a vehicle in his situation, what would you have? a pickup which isn't really useful for him day to day, or easy on the wallet, or would you pick a hatchback which will a) look much nicer b) should be cheaper to run in all areas c) drive far far better (and contrary to popular european opinion, california does actually have windy roads. they even have roundabouts!) and be far more suitable for driving to 'dances' or down to the supermarket to perv on some girl he's never going to ask out
Aesthetics don't matter. I'm just really fucking tired of the Euros on this forum talking out of their ass and insisting that the way they do things in their own country is by default correct. No, he should not drive a fucking Citroen or whatever shitbox Finray has
why would you pick that over a 1.6l focus which seats 5, will drive better and without a doubt looks nicer.
america does some vehicles very well - motorbikes, trucks, proper working pickups and so, but good practical cars for young drivers, not so much.
Last edited by FatherTed (2012-03-08 12:10:59)
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we drive whatever cars we want... i'm advocating a solid hatchback purely because it is a good car, i don't even drive anything remotely sensible for my ageJay wrote:
You drive the cars you do because your government thinks you should. Should we have $10/gallon taxes too?jord wrote:
Not really talking out of your ass when you're right bro.
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It isn't about some nanny state government telling us what to do so don't start that. He isn't a tradesman, he doesn't need a pickup. Yes it might be light for a pickup and fuel efficient for a pick up, but he can just go ahead and get a small, economical hatchback that's easy as shit to drive for even the mongiest of first time drivers (which i assume he is) and make a logical choice for once in his life.Jay wrote:
You drive the cars you do because your government thinks you should. Should we have $10/gallon taxes too?jord wrote:
Not really talking out of your ass when you're right bro.
now it doesn't sure, but it's like 11 years old lmao. the 2 gens since then look fantastic for the cost
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I hate hate hate hate hatchbacksFatherTed wrote:
we drive whatever cars we want... i'm advocating a solid hatchback purely because it is a good car, i don't even drive anything remotely sensible for my ageJay wrote:
You drive the cars you do because your government thinks you should. Should we have $10/gallon taxes too?jord wrote:
Not really talking out of your ass when you're right bro.
My first car was a Camaro and I've driven SUVs ever since.
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dauntless what do you drive?
my car!
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you havn't given them a chance. camaro at least is a car you have to think about driving, SUV's are just dumb (we had a freelander for a while). they're boring to sit in, boring to drive and boring to look at. you'd do well to borrow a hatchback and throw it through some bends sometime. if you're a bit worried about your penis shrinking by being in a <2l car, well we also do the Focus RSJay wrote:
I hate hate hate hate hatchbacksFatherTed wrote:
we drive whatever cars we want... i'm advocating a solid hatchback purely because it is a good car, i don't even drive anything remotely sensible for my ageJay wrote:
You drive the cars you do because your government thinks you should. Should we have $10/gallon taxes too?
My first car was a Camaro and I've driven SUVs ever since.
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You have that M5 still right?
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