imortal
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NKorea warns of nuclear war amid rising tensions

SEOUL, South Korea – North Korea's communist regime has warned of a nuclear war on the Korean peninsula while vowing to step up its atomic bomb-making program in defiance of new U.N. sanctions.

The North's defiance presents a growing diplomatic headache for President Barack Obama as he prepares for talks Tuesday with his South Korean counterpart on the North's missile and nuclear programs.

South Korean President Lee Myung-bak told security-related ministers during an unscheduled meeting Sunday to "resolutely and squarely" cope with the North's latest threat, his office said. Lee is to leave for the U.S. on Monday morning.

A commentary Sunday in the North's main state-run Rodong Sinmun newspaper, carried by the official Korean Central News Agency, claimed the U.S. has 1,000 nuclear weapons in South Korea. Another commentary published Saturday in the state-run Tongil Sinbo weekly claimed the U.S. has been deploying a vast amount of nuclear weapons in South Korea and Japan.

North Korea "is completely within the range of U.S. nuclear attack and the Korean peninsula is becoming an area where the chances of a nuclear war are the highest in the world," the Tongil Sinbo commentary said.

Kim Yong-kyu, a spokesman at the U.S. military command in Seoul, called the latest accusation "baseless," saying Washington has no nuclear bombs in South Korea. U.S. tactical nuclear weapons were removed from South Korea in 1991 as part of arms reductions following the Cold War.

South Korea's Unification Ministry issued a statement Sunday demanding the North stop stoking tension, abandon its nuclear weapons and return to dialogue with the South.

On Saturday, North Korea's Foreign Ministry threatened war on any country that dared to stop its ships on the high seas under the new sanctions approved by the U.N. Security Council on Friday as punishment for the North's latest nuclear test.

It is not clear if the statements are simply rhetorical. Still, they are a huge setback for international attempts to rein in North Korea's nuclear ambitions following its second nuclear test on May 25. It first tested a nuclear device in 2006.

In Saturday's statement, North Korea said it has been enriching uranium to provide fuel for its light-water reactor. It was the first public acknowledgment the North is running a uranium enrichment program in addition to its known plutonium-based program. The two radioactive materials are key ingredients in making atomic bombs.

On Sunday, Yonhap news agency reported South Korea and the U.S. have mobilized spy satellites, reconnaissance aircraft and human intelligence networks to obtain evidence that the North has been running a uranium enrichment program.

South Korea's Defense Ministry said it could not confirm the report. The National Intelligence Service — South Korea's main spy agency — was not available for comment.

North Korea said more than one-third of 8,000 spent fuel rods in its possession has been reprocessed and all the plutonium extracted would be used to make atomic bombs. The country could harvest 13-18 pounds (6-8 kilograms) of plutonium — enough to make at least one nuclear bomb — if all the rods are reprocessed.

In addition, North Korea is believed to have enough plutonium for at least half a dozen atomic bombs.

North Korea says its nuclear program is a deterrent against the U.S., which it routinely accuses of plotting to topple its regime. Washington, which has 28,500 troops in South Korea, has repeatedly said it has no such intention.

The new U.N. sanctions are aimed at depriving the North of the financing used to build its rogue nuclear program. The resolution also authorized searches of North Korean ships suspected of transporting illicit ballistic missile and nuclear materials.

U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton said the new U.N. penalties provide the necessary tools to help check North Korea's continued pursuit of nuclear weapons.

The sanctions show that "North Korea's pursuit of nuclear weapons and the capacity to deliver those weapons through missiles is not going to be accepted by the neighbors as well as the greater international community," Clinton said Saturday at a news conference in Canada.
Was he getting miffed that Iran has been getting so much attention lately?  Is he upset about the rising tensions that his strive for nuclear weapons has caused?  Am I missing something here?

"A commentary Sunday in the North's main state-run Rodong Sinmun newspaper, carried by the official Korean Central News Agency, claimed the U.S. has 1,000 nuclear weapons in South Korea. Another commentary published Saturday in the state-run Tongil Sinbo weekly claimed the U.S. has been deploying a vast amount of nuclear weapons in South Korea and Japan.?"   

What?  I doubt this is true, or even possible.  Since the SALT treaties with the US, we just don't have that many easily portable nukes lying around.  Now, there could very well be a few ballistic missile subs sitting off the coast; that I can believe.  The rest of this is just more pure propaganda.

Is it my imagination, or is a lot of this hitting the fan now that "the cowboy" is out of office, and someone more 'reasonable' is in power?

Last edited by imortal (2009-06-14 10:05:03)

Noobpatty
ʎʇʇɐdqoou
+194|6368|West NY
build underground vaults
now

Last edited by Noobpatty (2009-06-14 10:04:05)

AussieReaper
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+5,761|6167|what

imortal wrote:

Was he getting miffed that Iran has been getting so much attention lately?  Is he upset about the rising tensions that his strive for nuclear weapons has caused?  Am I missing something here?
He's about to hand over power to son #3.
https://i.imgur.com/maVpUMN.png
jsnipy
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Noobpatty wrote:

build underground vaults
now
we could run white noise tests in the vaults

Last edited by jsnipy (2009-06-14 10:21:27)

Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6615|132 and Bush

He needs to lighten up.

Xbone Stormsurgezz
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6543|Global Command
Sometimes I wish we had a common enemy, like Skynet and a bunch of nasty robots to fight.

This pointless global circle jerk is getting really old.
Noobpatty
ʎʇʇɐdqoou
+194|6368|West NY

jsnipy wrote:

Noobpatty wrote:

build underground vaults
now
we could run white noise tests in the vaults
And subliminally turn everyone inside into soldiers to destroy the remaining enemy Koreans?
Narupug
Fodder Mostly
+150|5611|Vacationland
Would NK honestly be THAT stupid, I mean they know they will be annihilated either by Nukes or by Invasion so why bother launching missiles at anyone.  Even China won't back them up if NK nukes someone and without China NK simply does not have the man power or the supplies to resist an invasion by the rest of the world. (who does?) NK would have to be dumb as a doorknob in order to launch a nuke at anyone. 
So we're safe...for now. Although we still have to worry about Russia's instability and aging Nuclear launch sites.  I mean Russia still has Nukes pointed at the US, the feeling is mutual for the US, so all it takes is one malfunction to cause a big problem. I'm not saying Nuclear holocaust because we don't know how the US will react to one nuke. We also have to worry about rebel groups seizing missile sites which also could be a problem
/off topic
NgoDamWei
Member
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Kim (genius IQ) must understand that any move against SK or Japan would be his last.  He's really like an ignored petulant child.

China is in the best position to end all this and although I'm not in favor of any one invading another, I'd like China just do it and get rid of the whole Il clan and usual suspect associates once and for all.   

We do have one favorable factor by leaving him in power however, we know what we're dealing with, as oppossed to a relative (no pun intended) unknown.   The "Brilliant One" - say it ain't so.
NgoDamWei
Member
+7|5677|Western North Carolina

jsnipy wrote:

Noobpatty wrote:

build underground vaults
now
we could run white noise tests in the vaults
hmm, the bleeding heart UK Reprieve org has "0 dB " tolerance, considers it torture.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6419|North Carolina
Perhaps, we can make good use of our Raptors.
Macbeth
Banned
+2,444|5600

ATG wrote:

Sometimes I wish we had a common enemy, like Skynet and a bunch of nasty robots to fight.

This pointless global circle jerk is getting really old.
Destroy New York with a giant telepathic squid?!

Anyway all of these moves by North Korea really defy logic as to why you would want to provoke the country with one of if not the largest nuclear arsenal on the planet. They must really be hedging their bets that China will back them up if anything.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6615|132 and Bush

Turquoise wrote:

Perhaps, we can make good use of our Raptors.
tbh
Xbone Stormsurgezz
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6419|North Carolina

Kmarion wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Perhaps, we can make good use of our Raptors.
tbh
Good point...
Bell
Frosties > Cornflakes
+362|6563|UK

I was content on waiting for BF3 but WW3 it is
imortal
Member
+240|6679|Austin, TX

Turquoise wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Perhaps, we can make good use of our Raptors.
tbh
Good point...
This may be a better way of putting it:



-or-

Last edited by imortal (2009-06-14 11:15:39)

Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6552|Long Island, New York
An article on Yahoo! said he's trying to build up NK as a nuclear power (but not start a war) so his son has an easier time adjusting to power.

Don't see how that'd give him an easier time at all but hey, that's Kim Jong Il for you..
Macbeth
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Poseidon wrote:

An article on Yahoo! said he's trying to build up NK as a nuclear power (but not start a war) so his son has an easier time adjusting to power.

Don't see how that'd give him an easier time at all but hey, that's Kim Jong Il for you..
Bargaining chip?
usmarine
Banned
+2,785|6776

"oh stupid former president...why were you so stupid to want to spend money on a missile defense?  dumb ass.  todays wars are guerrilla wars, not nukes." - random bf2s dst dummy
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6419|North Carolina

usmarine wrote:

"oh stupid former president...why were you so stupid to want to spend money on a missile defense?  dumb ass.  todays wars are guerrilla wars, not nukes." - random bf2s dst dummy
Bombing the shit out of North Korea doesn't require a missile defense system.  North Korea's missiles could never reach us anyway.
usmarine
Banned
+2,785|6776

turq....stop.  nobody really knows what they have.  thats a fact.  NK is prolly the least known country.
Ottomania
Troll has returned.
+62|6535|Istanbul-Turkey

imortal wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Kmarion wrote:


tbh
Good point...
This may be a better way of putting it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWtQ4lfU … re=related

-or-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sks6D2l8 … re=related
B-52 shouldnt be used since B-1 Lancer and B-2 Spirit exist.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6419|North Carolina

usmarine wrote:

turq....stop.  nobody really knows what they have.  thats a fact.  NK is prolly the least known country.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taepodong-2

While it is true that North Korea is a hard nation to get intel on, what we do know suggests that we could bomb them into oblivion, if we wanted to.
usmarine
Banned
+2,785|6776

Turquoise wrote:

usmarine wrote:

turq....stop.  nobody really knows what they have.  thats a fact.  NK is prolly the least known country.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taepodong-2

While it is true that North Korea is a hard nation to get intel on, what we do know suggests that we could bomb them into oblivion, if we wanted to.
i know we could bomb them flat.....nObama wouldnt do that.  hence the defense.
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6552|Long Island, New York
NK is just like Iran ironically. They try to make their military out to be much stronger than it is. And it's not.

Especially being on a peninsula, a strong Navy would be necessary for them to even leave a mark. And from all reports I've read, the NK Navy is outdated, understaffed and just generally inferior. Same thing with their Air Force.

They might have a million man army, but we've got a million missle navy.

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