ATG
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In yet another sign of how crazy the world has gotten; a world where republican is the same as liberal, a world where governments shovel money into banks we all know are liars, thieves and whores, the L.A. Times is no longer the hand wringng voice of brain dead liberalism.

The L.A. Times is speaking truth and we would all do well to listen.

"Rule 1: Never allow a crisis to go to waste," White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel told the New York Times right after the election. "They are opportunities to do big things." Over the weekend, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton told members of the European Parliament, "Never waste a good crisis." Then President Obama explained in his Saturday radio and Internet address that there is "great opportunity in the midst of" the "great crisis" befalling America.
NONE of the policies put forth by the obama admin are designed to fix the economy. In fact, they need the economy to continue to tank so that more of us are dependent on them, so that radical concepts will be embraced by a desperate population.

Obama's budget priorities are a great bait-and-switch. He says he wants to fix the financial crisis, but he's focusing on selling his long-standing liberal agenda on healthcare, energy and education as the way to do it, even though his proposals have absolutely nothing to do with addressing the housing and toxic-debt problems that are the direct causes of our predicament. Indeed, some -- particularly on Wall Street -- would argue that his policies are making the crisis worse.
What we have is financial terrorism. People feel like our economy and government is out of control on a path towards total collapse. This in turn has people hoarding what assets they have. Far from doing or saying anything to make things better, the obama admin has packed his cabnit with tax cheats and the usual suspects from the federal reserve. ALL people will pay more taxes under obama. No matter what lies they tell, this is truth. Corporations do not pay taxes, people do. Cap and trade, etc. All will suck more money from the public with little to no return.

But the real scandal isn't those policies, even though they're bad enough. The real scandal is that this administration thinks crises are opportunities for governmental power-grabs. Michael Kinsley famously said that a gaffe in Washington is when a politician accidentally tells the truth. As they say, it's funny because it's true.

But the White House tactic isn't funny at all. It's scary. Its amorality is outweighed only by the grotesque and astoundingly naked cynicism of it all.
They know these policies would never be accepted by the public, unless the public is terrified and desperate. In two years we have gone from a mostly free market economy to a perverted sort of corporate socialism. Yes, it started under the great asshole george bush. Did you vote for this?
Would you have if given the chance?

Recall that not long ago, the first item on the bill of indictment against the Bush administration was that it was "exploiting" 9/11 to enact its agenda. Al Gore shrieked that President Bush "played on our fears" to get his way. In response to nearly every Bush policy proposal, from the Patriot Act to the toppling of Saddam Hussein, critics would caterwaul that Bush was taking advantage of the country's fear of terrorism.


Well, now we have the president, along with his chief aides, admitting -- boasting! -- that they want to exploit a national emergency for their preexisting agenda, and there's no scandal. No one even calls it a gaffe. No, they call it leadership.


It's not leadership. It's fear-mongering.

Franklin Roosevelt said that all we have to fear is fear itself. Now Barack Obama all but admits that all he has to fear is the loss of fear itself.

In other realms of life, exploiting a crisis for your own purposes is an outrage. If a business uses a hurricane warning, for example, to price-gouge on vital supplies, it is a crime. When a liberal administration does it, it's taking advantage of a historic opportunity.
Hey Mr. President;
suck my balls.



http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/com … 638.column
13rin
Member
+977|6676
GREAT POST!

This is all about his Marxist, nation weakening agenda.  It is pitiful when one realizes that Americans are so dumb as to be buying into it.  And yes, I blame them for voting for him.  The writing was on the wall, but they were too blinded by stupidity to read it.
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something.  - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
nickb64
formerly from OC (it's EXACTLY like on tv)[truth]
+77|5808|Greatest Nation on Earth(USA)
He is not so much a Marxist, but a Statist.

His purpose is merely to increase his power and the power of the government, not fix anything.

What America needs is to return to the principles on which it was founded, not the failed policies of the Statist. The policies of the Statist destroy the Civil Society and make the people lose their liberty, which is replaced by the will of the State. We no longer live in a land where people are fully free to exercise their liberty, but  Soft Tyranny. We are headed down the slow path to STATISM, and with the election of Mr. Obama, the road has gotten steeper and more slippery downhill toward the final result of  TYRANNY.

Declaration of Independence wrote:

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. --That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

Last edited by nickb64 (2009-05-19 14:16:45)

unnamednewbie13
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Whenever the guy opens his mouth stocks seem to jitter. Not trying to draw absolutes; it's just an observation.
Man With No Name
جندي
+148|5772|The Wild West

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Whenever the guy opens his mouth stocks seem to jitter. Not trying to draw absolutes; it's just an observation.
not true.  stocks are up.
SGT_Dicklewicz
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I just wish I could see the faces of all those people who voted for the "change we need" as they sit on the curb of their fore closed homes or sitting in the welfare lines or unemployment.
Fuck off media, you got suckered, the people listened to what you had to say for 18 months about the "change we need" and now look. Yeah I wonder why newspapers are failing, because you are frauds!
I feel so sorry for our wonderful Country and what we used to be before the "change we need"(ed) came.
Man With No Name
جندي
+148|5772|The Wild West

SGT_Dicklewicz wrote:

I just wish I could see the faces of all those people who voted for the "change we need" as they sit on the curb of their fore closed homes or sitting in the welfare lines or unemployment.
Fuck off media, you got suckered, the people listened to what you had to say for 18 months about the "change we need" and now look. Yeah I wonder why newspapers are failing, because you are frauds!
I feel so sorry for our wonderful Country and what we used to be before the "change we need"(ed) came.
posts like these is why people will never take your side seriously


you hope the worst for our country just so you could feel good about your point of view.
SGT_Dicklewicz
Member
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^^^^^^^shut up!^^^^ have a thought would ya?

If Obama fails, we are all in trouble. I would love to see our Country succeed.  Just doesn't look like it is going that way right now.
stryyker
bad touch
+1,682|6917|California

The horrible truth is that fear-mongering is what is keeping this country together.

Sometimes the right thing happens for the wrong reasons
Man With No Name
جندي
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SGT_Dicklewicz wrote:

^^^^^^^shut up!^^^^ have a thought would ya?

If Obama fails, we are all in trouble. I would love to see our Country succeed.  Just doesn't look like it is going that way right now.
really?  I have more money this year than I had last year.  I have no serious debt, my GI Bill benefits are about to triple in august.  Life is great.  No swine flu either
stryyker
bad touch
+1,682|6917|California

SGT_Dicklewicz wrote:

^^^^^^^shut up!^^^^ have a thought would ya?

If Obama fails, we are all in trouble. I would love to see our Country succeed.  Just doesn't look like it is going that way right now.
Define failure. Define success.

Is success a 4 figure DOW index? Is failure a heightened unemployment rate?

Its the ebb and flow of the world. We base our economy of an intangible and hugely varying sense of failure and success.
SGT_Dicklewicz
Member
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Man With No Name wrote:

SGT_Dicklewicz wrote:

^^^^^^^shut up!^^^^ have a thought would ya?

If Obama fails, we are all in trouble. I would love to see our Country succeed.  Just doesn't look like it is going that way right now.
really?  I have more money this year than I had last year.  I have no serious debt, my GI Bill benefits are about to triple in august.  Life is great.  No swine flu either
Life is great for me too. I have a job, healthy kids, home, food and no swine flu either, doesn't mean the rest of America isn't hurting. By the way you can drop the Obama Pom Pom's, he got elected already. When you decide to wake up in 10 years or so and 50% of your check is gone and you have no personal freedoms any more, don't come crying to me.
Man With No Name
جندي
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SGT_Dicklewicz wrote:

Man With No Name wrote:

SGT_Dicklewicz wrote:

^^^^^^^shut up!^^^^ have a thought would ya?

If Obama fails, we are all in trouble. I would love to see our Country succeed.  Just doesn't look like it is going that way right now.
really?  I have more money this year than I had last year.  I have no serious debt, my GI Bill benefits are about to triple in august.  Life is great.  No swine flu either
Life is great for me too. I have a job, healthy kids, home, food and no swine flu either, doesn't mean the rest of America isn't hurting. By the way you can drop the Obama Pom Pom's, he got elected already. When you decide to wake up in 10 years or so and 50% of your check is gone and you have no personal freedoms any more, don't come crying to me.
ok, see, this is what Im talking about when I say people will never take your side serious "Obama pom poms"  ok....next.
SGT_Dicklewicz
Member
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Man With No Name wrote:

SGT_Dicklewicz wrote:

Man With No Name wrote:


really?  I have more money this year than I had last year.  I have no serious debt, my GI Bill benefits are about to triple in august.  Life is great.  No swine flu either
Life is great for me too. I have a job, healthy kids, home, food and no swine flu either, doesn't mean the rest of America isn't hurting. By the way you can drop the Obama Pom Pom's, he got elected already. When you decide to wake up in 10 years or so and 50% of your check is gone and you have no personal freedoms any more, don't come crying to me.
ok, see, this is what Im talking about when I say people will never take your side serious "Obama pom poms"  ok....next.
Where is your thought on this? How about starting there? At least I have a thought, you just want someone to do it all for you apparently. Typical Liberal crap, pick and choose what to read.
Man With No Name
جندي
+148|5772|The Wild West

SGT_Dicklewicz wrote:

Man With No Name wrote:

SGT_Dicklewicz wrote:


Life is great for me too. I have a job, healthy kids, home, food and no swine flu either, doesn't mean the rest of America isn't hurting. By the way you can drop the Obama Pom Pom's, he got elected already. When you decide to wake up in 10 years or so and 50% of your check is gone and you have no personal freedoms any more, don't come crying to me.
ok, see, this is what Im talking about when I say people will never take your side serious "Obama pom poms"  ok....next.
Where is your thought on this? How about starting there? At least I have a thought, you just want someone to do it all for you apparently. Typical Liberal crap, pick and choose what to read.
says the guy that cant bring forth an argument without throwing around insults.  you have no thoughts, you are just regurgitating someone elses garbage.  your mom is a liberal.
nickb64
formerly from OC (it's EXACTLY like on tv)[truth]
+77|5808|Greatest Nation on Earth(USA)

SGT_Dicklewicz wrote:

^^^^^^^shut up!^^^^ have a thought would ya?

If Obama fails, we are all in trouble. I would love to see our Country succeed.  Just doesn't look like it is going that way right now.
I want our country to succeed as well, but Obama is not setting it up for success, rather, he is setting it up for bigger government and more taxation, which will only hinder the people. Taking away money from people does not help them buy things they need.
Man With No Name
جندي
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what else have your parents told you?
SGT_Dicklewicz
Member
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real intelligent retort.

Fear Mongering (IMO) - The basic principle of maintaining  fear in a person in which thought process can be controlled, since free thinkers are dangerous!

All I know are some ways, not only my thought process, but just in general the way things have changed for me;

10 years ago - I felt I could leave my job and do just fine.
Today - Feel lucky to have a job

10 years ago - Could sell my home and make a good profit
Today - lucky to sell

10 years ago - could get a loan for anything at a decent rate
Today - Just try to refinance a residence that I have lived in and been paying on for 10 years and hope I have enough equity to do it!

10 years ago - could enjoy a Pontiac
Today - No can do no more here either

10 years ago - We would keep score at my kids games
Today - No scoring till I think 3rd grade.

These are just some examples off the top of my head.
Man With No Name
جندي
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SGT_Dicklewicz wrote:

real intelligent retort.

Fear Mongering (IMO) - The basic principle of maintaining  fear in a person in which thought process can be controlled, since free thinkers are dangerous!

All I know are some ways, not only my thought process, but just in general the way things have changed for me;

10 years ago - I felt I could leave my job and do just fine.
Today - Feel lucky to have a job

10 years ago - Could sell my home and make a good profit
Today - lucky to sell

10 years ago - could get a loan for anything at a decent rate
Today - Just try to refinance a residence that I have lived in and been paying on for 10 years and hope I have enough equity to do it!

10 years ago - could enjoy a Pontiac
Today - No can do no more here either

10 years ago - We would keep score at my kids games
Today - No scoring till I think 3rd grade.

These are just some examples off the top of my head.
shouldnt you be missing Bill Clinton?
SGT_Dicklewicz
Member
+33|6822
who said I don't?
Man With No Name
جندي
+148|5772|The Wild West
my bad killer.  I made the assumption.  My mistake
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6602|North Carolina
There's a certain irony to accusing Obama of fear mongering when this thread is essentially the same.
SGT_Dicklewicz
Member
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Turquoise wrote:

There's a certain irony to accusing Obama of fear mongering when this thread is essentially the same.
This is bf2s D&S, not The President of the United States taking advantage of Americans fears. I would say a bit of a difference?

By the way I love how the Liberals don't know what to say to you if you don't like Obama, but you liked Clinton. LOL!
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6726|Global Command
Truth is now fear.
Man With No Name
جندي
+148|5772|The Wild West

SGT_Dicklewicz wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

There's a certain irony to accusing Obama of fear mongering when this thread is essentially the same.
This is bf2s D&S, not The President of the United States taking advantage of Americans fears. I would say a bit of a difference?

By the way I love how the Liberals don't know what to say to you if you don't like Obama, but you liked Clinton. LOL!
see I thought I was taking the higher road by admitting my fault in making an assumption.  Apparently, that was a mistake.  You are an ignorant.  Im not a liberal.  Im not a fucking highschooler that needs to give myself a label to feel complete.  I vote on issues and wether or not the candidate is black.  You are bitching about things, putting the blame on things you obviously dont understand.



LOL!  again.  I cant take you or anyone else's arguments serious when you LOL in your own post about something youre supposed to feel angry about.

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