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.Sup wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

.Sup wrote:

Are there any reviews comparing those two cards? I haven't seen any yet.

@rammi thats expensive yes. Try different stores, they are priced the same in Germany.
Second link-I would definitely recommend 8800GT 512. Its a good card for the price, better than 3870.

http://www.google.fi/search?q=3850+vs+3 … =firefox-a

Only a million results...

As for the Zotac 8800GT, don't get it. I've read about Zotac cards falling apart on site, frying, etc. Never go for the cheapest brand.

Didn't see rammi said 3850. I meant hows 3870 compared to 4850. And don't reply in such a cocky way.

Freezer7Pro wrote:

.Sup wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

The 3870 is generally faster. About 1/3 faster.

Are there any reviews comparing those two cards? I haven't seen any yet.

@rammi thats expensive yes. Try different stores, they are priced the same in Germany.
Second link-I would definitely recommend 8800GT 512. Its a good card for the price, better than 3870.

http://www.google.fi/search?q=3850+vs+3 … =firefox-a

Only a million results...

As for the Zotac 8800GT, don't get it. I've read about Zotac cards falling apart on site, frying, etc. Never go for the cheapest brand.

rammunition wrote:

rammunition wrote:

Final Rig


CPU: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/145258     £82.95inc vat
GRAPHICS CARD: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/145605/sh … ct_reviews   £89.99 inc vat
MOTHERBOARD: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/143228   £67.99inc vat
RAM: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/116755    £27.99inc vat
PSU: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/135197/sh … t_overview   £39.99inc vat
HARD-DRIVE: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/130826   £47.79inc vat
CASE: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/134797   £13.99inc vat   


Total: £370.69 with free P&P


MY Monitor

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Hewlett-Packard … amp;sr=1-1

My Optical drives

2X: http://www.amazon.co.uk/dvd1040i-Multif … amp;sr=8-1

Last edited by rammunition (2008-07-10 12:25:23)

.Sup wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

.Sup wrote:

Didn't see rammi said 3850. I meant hows 3870 compared to 4850. And don't reply in such a cocky way.

http://www.google.fi/search?hl=sv&s … &meta=

Only 700 000 results...

I'm saying it in a cocky way, beceause you tend to stay up-to-date. You're the last person I'd expect to be unable to use Google.

Wow that sure is a good reason to be cocky. Hard forum link didn't work for me before.

.Sup wrote:

If the 3870 costs the same as 8800GT 512 you must get the GT. Its better!

Last edited by Freezer7Pro (2008-07-08 08:07:16)

.Sup wrote:

Freezer what shitty brand are you talking about if I may ask? Cards do have warranty.

Last edited by rammunition (2008-07-08 08:30:34)

Freezer7Pro wrote:

rammunition wrote:

also i have been told this


"The Zotac 8800GT is definitely better that the 3870. Let me give youa few reasons.
1) It's a Nvidia Geforce card, not a mediocre performer like Ati's 3870. - That's just stupid. This guy is clearly an nVidia fanboi.
2) SLI (Scalable Link Interface) has been proven to scale better than Crossfire should you choose to upgrade your PC. - The opposite is true.
3) Ati has bad drivers, Nvidia has great drivers. - The opposite is true
4) The Benchmarks show it, search on Google for one. - The 8800GT is 10-20% faster. But also more expensive
5) I have one, and get about 10,500 Marks (a great score) in 3DMarks 2006. - I get 12300 with my 3870. His computer sucks.
6) I run all my games excluding Crysis which include (Half Life 2, TF2, COD4: Modern Warfare, WoW, Bioshock, and AOE3, etc... on the highest settings possible. - A 3870 will do that, too.
7) I get a solid 20-25 fps in Crysis on Medium settings at 1280*1024." - I get a quite steady 30 on medium settings with my 3870.

That guy is so biased, and he doesn't really know what he's talking about. The 8800GT (Not Zotac specific, obviously), is faster than the 3870, at most apps. The 3870 is also faster than the 8800GT, at some apps. However, if you buy a Zotac card, you're taking a risk, as their build quality isn't exactly great. If you wanna get an 8800GT, get a respectable brand, like ASUS, Gigabyte, Inno3D, XFX and EVGA. They cost more for a reason, and the Zotac cards are way under that price for a reason.

If you want to stick with the budget of £350, get that £86 3870. It's a good brand, and it's ten times faster than your current card. If you do, however, want to go a little further, get a brand-name 8800GT. That would be slightly faster, for slightly more cash. Those 8800GTs that go for a bit over £100 all have a good price/performance ratio, whiles maintaining some kind of build quality.

Last edited by rammunition (2008-07-08 09:12:40)

Freezer7Pro wrote:

rammunition wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

That guy is so biased, and he doesn't really know what he's talking about. The 8800GT (Not Zotac specific, obviously), is faster than the 3870, at most apps. The 3870 is also faster than the 8800GT, at some apps. However, if you buy a Zotac card, you're taking a risk, as their build quality isn't exactly great. If you wanna get an 8800GT, get a respectable brand, like ASUS, Gigabyte, Inno3D, XFX and EVGA. They cost more for a reason, and the Zotac cards are way under that price for a reason.

If you want to stick with the budget of £350, get that £86 3870. It's a good brand, and it's ten times faster than your current card. If you do, however, want to go a little further, get a brand-name 8800GT. That would be slightly faster, for slightly more cash. Those 8800GTs that go for a bit over £100 all have a good price/performance ratio, whiles maintaining some kind of build quality.

tbh if im going to get a good branded 8800GT i might aswell put in another £10 and get a 4850 which is, we all will agree, better than the other 2

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/146428

That's an ok brand, and a lovely choice of GPU. However, you will be presented with a bottleneck, unless you overclock your CPU a bit.

.Sup wrote:

rammunition wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

That's an ok brand, and a lovely choice of GPU. However, you will be presented with a bottleneck, unless you overclock your CPU a bit.

forget that then, i will get either the 8800GT or the 8870

Get 4850 and I'll teach how to OC the CPU.

Freezer7Pro wrote:

rammunition wrote:

.Sup wrote:

Get 4850 and I'll teach how to OC the CPU.

is it easy, is the mobo i have chosen Overcloackable???
also when overclocked can the CPU/GPU etc be reduced back to stock clock speed?

I've got a DS3 myself, and an E7200. I'll guide you through it, even on cam, if you so like.

And yes, you can go back to stock speed, after you've overclocked, but I don't see why you would do that

You should also get a cheap aftermarket cooler for it, like the AC Freezer7Pro, or the like. The stock cooler can bring an E7200 to 3.2GHz, anyhow.

rammunition wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

rammunition wrote:

is it easy, is the mobo i have chosen Overcloackable???
also when overclocked can the CPU/GPU etc be reduced back to stock clock speed?

I've got a DS3 myself, and an E7200. I'll guide you through it, even on cam, if you so like.

And yes, you can go back to stock speed, after you've overclocked, but I don't see why you would do that

You should also get a cheap aftermarket cooler for it, like the AC Freezer7Pro, or the like. The stock cooler can bring an E7200 to 3.2GHz, anyhow.

so when you overclock, all you need to do is get a better cooler, what about a better heatsink or back panel fans???

rammunition wrote:

will consider OC if this build goes well.

I have one last major concern.


i am currently using a 250GB samsung 8MB buffer HD.

Now on that HD is all my games, software, work etc and I have Windows XP 32-Bit OEM installed on that.
I want to keep this 250GB hard-drive and want to use at as my main/second HD on this new build to save the trouble of transferring my stuff, using the 500GB as a second/first drive.

Now since i have Windows XP 32-bit OEM on that how can i install Vista 64-bit on it without re-formatting it etc???

can it be done??