Sup3r_Dr4gon
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+214|6545|Australia
I've been in the market for a new vid card for a while now. I bought my X1900XT over 2 years ago and it was starting to show it's age in a number of games - Crysis (duh), STALKER, COD4, etc. In games like HL2: Episode 2, BF2 and Farcry it was managing to pull 50FPS at most parts, but I am looking to get a new monitor - 24", 1920x1200 - in the next few weeks, and I know that at such a resolution I'd have to bump the settings down so it can handle it.

I've looked at the 3870s for some time and was pretty close to buying one, but after hearing about the 4-series on these forums I decided to hold out until they were released. They were released earlier in the week here in Aus, but only though online stores in the eastern states. After having problems buying a videocard though the net already, I wanted to get it at an actual shop so if this card dies I can go there and punch someone get a replacement rather then fire off an email and wait 2 months.

The shops in my area were advertising it's release in 2 weeks. However, this afternoon I went on to one store's site (looking for a monitor) and lo and behold I see:
Radeon HD4870 - Just In, Low Stock - $419
Me:
After running down there and buying it, I got home and set to work:

The Box:
https://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i235/The_R4ptor_M4gnum/870box2.jpg

The Card:
https://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i235/The_R4ptor_M4gnum/870card2.jpg
The cooler design is rather similar to the HD2900 series and to some extent the G80 8800GTSs.
And yes, I had the flash on. I turned it off for a second shot, but it was all blurry.

All the stuff it came with: drivers, 3Dmark06, crossfire bridge, power cables, DVI/analogue and DVI/HDMI converters and TV-out cables:
https://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i235/The_R4ptor_M4gnum/870accessories2.jpg

A side-by-side comparison with my X1900XT, in all it's curved-PCB-and-bent-PCI-bracket glory:
https://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i235/The_R4ptor_M4gnum/870900comaprison2.jpg
As you can see, it's only slightly longer and despite the larger cooler, It isn't much heavier then the X1900.
And what is it with graphics card companies and having hot chicks who are more often than not heavily armed and wearing skimpy clothes on their coolers?

Installed:
https://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i235/The_R4ptor_M4gnum/870installed2.jpg
Still plenty of room for the power cables.

Two of the reasons I didn't want to wait for the 260GTX to drop in price or for the 4870X2 to come out:
1) They couldn't easily fit in my case and
2) My PSU would probably cark it. Indeed, I wasn't sure if it could even handle this.
So with some uncertainty I hooked my comp back up and turned it on. It passed the first test: it didn't explode and burn my house down. A very important test this one, generally if a card fails this it doesn't do very well in the benchmarks.
https://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i235/The_R4ptor_M4gnum/870running2.jpg
The red stands out quite I bit as you can see in this photo, but it doesn't look that bad IRL.

Heres the 3Dmark score @ 1280x1024 using:
Core 2 Duo E6400 (stock)
Asus Commando
2GB of DDR2 800 Geil RAM (either 5-5-5-15 or 4-4-4-12, I'm not sure)
74GB Raptor
Windows XP Home with SP2
And of course, the 512MB 4870
https://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i235/The_R4ptor_M4gnum/48703dm062.jpg

It seems rather tame I know (I can already hear people going "i get 342667 points with mah gefors 678900GTSGTXGSXTX overclocked rape edishun!!1) but considering I had 5700ish with my X1900 I'm rather happy with the results. I know my CPU and RAM are a large bottleneck but this card will get me a far better in game frame increase then if I had spent the same money of a quad core and RAM and stayed with the X1900.

I don't have Crysis installed at the moment, but when I put it on I'll screw around with the settings and see what i can come up with.

Last edited by Sup3r_Dr4gon (2008-06-27 05:52:50)

Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6688
Nice buy . I'm still waiting on Nvidia's 'retaliation'- will see if their PR hype and marketing frenzy lives up to standards!

I'd definitely buy a quad-core and 4Gb DDR2 (minimum) ASAP though, as you've already said the rest of your system is holding that beauty back!
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Varegg
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Nice quilt
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Scratch[USA]
Member
+105|6765
You suck
Just kidding. 
Overclock the cpu and watch your scores sky rocket.  The cpu is holding that card back.
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|6838|London, England
At least turn off that unnecessary shit like the neon lights if you're worried about your PSU
jsnipy
...
+3,276|6740|...

is your Zalman black?
.Sup
be nice
+2,646|6671|The Twilight Zone
Smart move.
prepare to dominate...
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Slayer
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+1,137|6974|Hell, p.o box 666

9.650 in 3dmark06 is ok, but I´ve thought it would hit the 11k mark even with that CPU
kylef
Gone
+1,352|6711|N. Ireland
I have the X1900XT! Tell me what sort of difference in performance there is
Agent_Dung_Bomb
Member
+302|6953|Salt Lake City

kylef wrote:

I have the X1900XT! Tell me what sort of difference in performance there is
There is no comparison.  I had an X1950XTX, then my 8800GT, and now a 4850, and the difference in that is massive.  With the extra power of the 4870, you won't even think it's the same computer.
Freezer7Pro
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Scratch[USA] wrote:

Overclock the cpu and watch your scores sky rocket.  The cpu is holding that card back.
YES! You're getting half of what you're supposed to get.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
Slayer
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+1,137|6974|Hell, p.o box 666

C2D 6400 bottlenecking @ 3dmark06? 2GB DD2 800Mhz bottlenecking @3dmark06....?
Kurazoo
Pheasant Plucker
+440|6902|West Yorkshire, U.K
Nice

What power connecters does this beast have?
.Sup
be nice
+2,646|6671|The Twilight Zone

Slayer wrote:

C2D 6400 bottlenecking @ 3dmark06? 2GB DD2 800Mhz bottlenecking @3dmark06....?
[email protected] is bottlenecking for sure
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Brasso
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jsnipy wrote:

is your Zalman black?
Yep, looks like the 9700NT to me.

That IS a pretty low score.  RAM is only holding you back a little, the CPU is more than likely the main culprit.

You should easily get scores over 12K at least.

But very nice buy. (At $413 US though, that's a little much... It should have been priced around $300)
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Slayer
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+1,137|6974|Hell, p.o box 666

come on, its 3dmark06... Even with a regular AMD64 4000+, 2GB DDR 400Mhz and 2x 7900GTX without any overclocking I had results around 8.5-9k in 1280 x 1024.
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|6838|London, England

Slayer wrote:

come on, its 3dmark06... Even with a regular AMD64 4000+, 2GB DDR 400Mhz and 2x 7900GTX without any overclocking I had results around 8.5-9k in 1280 x 1024.

I dont think his CPU is bottlenecking too much.
Right.

The card just sucks balls, he should've got a GTX 260/280 instead. Or a 9800GTX. They're much better at 3dMark


/sarcasm


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What I don't understand about the OP. Is he talks about how his old card sucked in Crysis/CoD etc.. yet decides to not tell us how the new card is in those games, rather show the 3dmark score

Last edited by Mek-Stizzle (2008-06-27 08:01:46)

Slayer
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+1,137|6974|Hell, p.o box 666

well, posted it before... Ill see how the 260GTX, 280GTX, 4850 and 4870 compete against each other later this evening... Got eh NV yesterday and the ATi this morning....

will compare them in my rigs and a friend. Specs later.

Just a little show off Mek, my current 9800GTX-SLI, Nvidia 750i SLI, C2D E8500, 2GB Corsair DDR2 Cl4 got 17.531 in 3dmark...
Rod Foxx
Warblgarbl
+78|6201|Perth, Australia

haffeysucks wrote:

jsnipy wrote:

is your Zalman black?
Yep, looks like the 9700NT to me.

That IS a pretty low score.  RAM is only holding you back a little, the CPU is more than likely the main culprit.

You should easily get scores over 12K at least.

But very nice buy. (At $413 US though, that's a little much... It should have been priced around $300)
That would be $413 Aus.

All computer parts cost more down here, especially if you live in Perth as i believe Super_Dragon does.
Brasso
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+1,549|6848

Rod Foxx wrote:

haffeysucks wrote:

jsnipy wrote:

is your Zalman black?
Yep, looks like the 9700NT to me.

That IS a pretty low score.  RAM is only holding you back a little, the CPU is more than likely the main culprit.

You should easily get scores over 12K at least.

But very nice buy. (At $413 US though, that's a little much... It should have been priced around $300)
That would be $413 Aus.

All computer parts cost more down here, especially if you live in Perth as i believe Super_Dragon does.
Oh, I just used an online calculator.

That sucks...
"people in ny have a general idea of how to drive. one of the pedals goes forward the other one prevents you from dying"
.Sup
be nice
+2,646|6671|The Twilight Zone

haffeysucks wrote:

Rod Foxx wrote:

haffeysucks wrote:


Yep, looks like the 9700NT to me.

That IS a pretty low score.  RAM is only holding you back a little, the CPU is more than likely the main culprit.

You should easily get scores over 12K at least.

But very nice buy. (At $413 US though, that's a little much... It should have been priced around $300)
That would be $413 Aus.

All computer parts cost more down here, especially if you live in Perth as i believe Super_Dragon does.
Oh, I just used an online calculator.

That sucks...
...for the Aussies
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elite.mafia
Banned
+122|6671|USA
I got over 11k with a 8800gt so I guess that my 2 gen old card is better than that one??
TimmmmaaaaH
Damn, I... had something for this
+725|6657|Brisbane, Australia

Slayer wrote:

Just a little show off Mek, my current 9800GTX-SLI, Nvidia 750i SLI, C2D E8500, 2GB Corsair DDR2 Cl4 got 17.531 in 3dmark...
slayers back!

and he has a much larger epeen than he did befoer
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.Sup
be nice
+2,646|6671|The Twilight Zone

elite.mafia wrote:

I got over 11k with a 8800gt so I guess that my 2 gen old card is better than that one??
Nope. Whats your CPU's clock?
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Scratch[USA]
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elite.mafia wrote:

I got over 11k with a 8800gt so I guess that my 2 gen old card is better than that one??
No just your cpu is better.  I get 12 with 8800gt stock and E6600 at 3.0ghz.  That 4870 has so much more in it.

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